1 00:00:25,129 --> 00:00:35,939 Tajima leaps out ala nadya doll she 2 00:00:30,289 --> 00:00:37,620 million that's me because he hosts by 3 00:00:35,939 --> 00:00:40,619 hugely stooping himself the chart 4 00:00:37,619 --> 00:00:44,939 calamity she'll the turban squash artery 5 00:00:40,619 --> 00:00:48,780 calcium it's calm she whipped school yes 6 00:00:44,939 --> 00:00:53,578 was it's a messy coordinate or Nimitz 7 00:00:48,780 --> 00:00:57,558 follow gear XO politically um yeah is a 8 00:00:53,579 --> 00:01:00,929 product aluminum at school Oboro 9 00:00:57,558 --> 00:01:06,500 neighbor who move it at all whole kidney 10 00:01:00,929 --> 00:01:06,500 conditions up to Davos logo new room 11 00:01:07,489 --> 00:01:14,819 take who year thank you so thank you 12 00:01:13,140 --> 00:01:18,060 very much eager for this nice 13 00:01:14,819 --> 00:01:20,579 introduction which to be honest I 14 00:01:18,060 --> 00:01:26,640 haven't understood one single word of it 15 00:01:20,579 --> 00:01:31,709 but I'm sure it was very nice my name is 16 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:34,590 Robert Fleischer I'm from your your 17 00:01:31,709 --> 00:01:38,399 right from the neighborhood from Germany 18 00:01:34,590 --> 00:01:43,228 I grew up in Karl Marx that which is now 19 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:45,118 chemnitz so I went to your precious 20 00:01:43,228 --> 00:01:47,219 country a couple of times and I've 21 00:01:45,118 --> 00:01:50,340 always enjoyed it especially the 22 00:01:47,219 --> 00:01:52,709 spirulina or how you translate or how do 23 00:01:50,340 --> 00:01:54,390 you pronounce it I don't know it's I I 24 00:01:52,709 --> 00:01:58,289 was told it's called ice cream that's 25 00:01:54,390 --> 00:02:01,299 the only the only word I remember from 26 00:01:58,290 --> 00:02:06,850 my childhood from 27 00:02:01,299 --> 00:02:11,180 the Czech Republic let me tell you 28 00:02:06,849 --> 00:02:17,180 something about myself first I am a 29 00:02:11,180 --> 00:02:21,799 journalist 34 years old I used to work 30 00:02:17,180 --> 00:02:25,180 for television because I'd always wanted 31 00:02:21,799 --> 00:02:27,349 to become a journalist for television 32 00:02:25,180 --> 00:02:29,330 because I thought that there are so many 33 00:02:27,348 --> 00:02:32,479 interesting subjects that you could 34 00:02:29,330 --> 00:02:37,250 report on and which are important for 35 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:40,340 mankind to know and and I didn't see 36 00:02:37,250 --> 00:02:42,949 those subjects on mainstream television 37 00:02:40,340 --> 00:02:47,989 so I thought well just go there and do 38 00:02:42,949 --> 00:02:51,949 it myself you know I was I was a pretty 39 00:02:47,989 --> 00:02:53,810 naive at that time I must say because it 40 00:02:51,949 --> 00:02:55,608 took me a couple of years working for 41 00:02:53,810 --> 00:02:58,219 television until I understood that 42 00:02:55,609 --> 00:03:05,209 television is not the place where you 43 00:02:58,219 --> 00:03:08,030 can report on the important things so in 44 00:03:05,209 --> 00:03:10,699 in June of 2007 I founded 45 00:03:08,030 --> 00:03:15,159 Exopolitics Germany which is part of the 46 00:03:10,699 --> 00:03:20,030 Exopolitics Institute of dr. Salam 47 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:23,449 we have been working mainly in the in 48 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:25,609 the field of journalism so we do not 49 00:03:23,449 --> 00:03:31,399 collect collect or we are not visible 50 00:03:25,609 --> 00:03:34,159 hours ourselves but but we collect the 51 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:37,099 evidence and we do that because in in 52 00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:39,469 Germany it's it's it's pretty difficult 53 00:03:37,098 --> 00:03:42,530 to talk about the whole subject it's not 54 00:03:39,469 --> 00:03:44,568 like in Great Britain where you have the 55 00:03:42,530 --> 00:03:47,659 government of the Ministry of Defence 56 00:03:44,568 --> 00:03:50,479 releasing files you know tons and stacks 57 00:03:47,659 --> 00:03:54,379 of files you know which would which 58 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:56,179 would occupy you for 50 years to go 59 00:03:54,379 --> 00:03:59,870 through every single sheet of it you 60 00:03:56,180 --> 00:04:01,879 know in Germany it's really difficult in 61 00:03:59,870 --> 00:04:06,669 my talk I want to approach the UFO 62 00:04:01,878 --> 00:04:10,399 subject from the political perspective 63 00:04:06,669 --> 00:04:12,500 what has become known in my country how 64 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,870 my government is dealing with UFOs and 65 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:19,129 as you will see Exopolitics German 66 00:04:14,870 --> 00:04:21,379 so far has played a certain role in what 67 00:04:19,129 --> 00:04:26,478 you would elsewhere call a disclosure 68 00:04:21,379 --> 00:04:31,909 process so disclosure that's the famous 69 00:04:26,478 --> 00:04:34,339 word which means which basically means 70 00:04:31,910 --> 00:04:35,990 that one day the government will have to 71 00:04:34,339 --> 00:04:39,310 admit that they have that they know 72 00:04:35,990 --> 00:04:45,610 quite a lot more than what they publicly 73 00:04:39,310 --> 00:04:50,030 say they know about et visitation and 74 00:04:45,610 --> 00:04:52,580 alien craft I'm not sure if I'm one of 75 00:04:50,029 --> 00:04:54,500 those who who doubts that this will ever 76 00:04:52,579 --> 00:04:58,399 take place because I think that the 77 00:04:54,500 --> 00:05:02,060 government has has has good reasons not 78 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:04,399 to not to abolish its own role as the 79 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:08,899 government because that this what would 80 00:05:04,399 --> 00:05:13,149 take place in in in my opinion so we 81 00:05:08,899 --> 00:05:18,620 have a website this is the website I'm 82 00:05:13,149 --> 00:05:23,810 we have it's a new website founded in 83 00:05:18,620 --> 00:05:26,598 June of 2007 and this website contains 84 00:05:23,810 --> 00:05:28,220 three sections it's it's it's entirely 85 00:05:26,598 --> 00:05:30,620 in German I am sorry 86 00:05:28,220 --> 00:05:33,530 it's neither in Czech neither in English 87 00:05:30,620 --> 00:05:36,079 a lot of my English colleagues complain 88 00:05:33,529 --> 00:05:40,668 about this but it's because we make a 89 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:43,848 lot of video reports and videos films 90 00:05:40,668 --> 00:05:47,029 documentaries and it's difficult and 91 00:05:43,848 --> 00:05:49,939 it's it's it's expensive and it costs a 92 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:51,409 lot of time also to make English or 93 00:05:49,939 --> 00:05:52,098 international versions of it but we're 94 00:05:51,410 --> 00:05:55,010 working on it 95 00:05:52,098 --> 00:05:59,509 so we have three sections because the 96 00:05:55,009 --> 00:06:04,569 thing is when you talk about UFOs you 97 00:05:59,509 --> 00:06:08,240 have to target groups you have the 98 00:06:04,569 --> 00:06:14,029 completely uninformed public which is in 99 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:16,819 my country I would say 80% of the 100 00:06:14,029 --> 00:06:20,000 population and you have those who know 101 00:06:16,819 --> 00:06:22,848 that there is something to it and they 102 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,769 do not want to hear about the the basic 103 00:06:22,848 --> 00:06:27,360 facts anymore you know they would rather 104 00:06:24,769 --> 00:06:31,529 go for witness testimony 105 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:37,710 the direct et confrontation sort of the 106 00:06:31,529 --> 00:06:40,799 things that we just heard from Joanna so 107 00:06:37,709 --> 00:06:43,739 what happens when when you confront the 108 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:47,610 second target group with the basic 109 00:06:43,740 --> 00:06:50,340 information is that they become bored 110 00:06:47,610 --> 00:06:53,400 and they will just switch off or change 111 00:06:50,339 --> 00:06:56,609 the website or whatever and if you and 112 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:59,638 if you confront the first target group 113 00:06:56,610 --> 00:07:02,939 the uninformed general public with a 114 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:05,490 very advanced knowledge about this like 115 00:07:02,939 --> 00:07:09,990 questions like for example meetings of 116 00:07:05,490 --> 00:07:11,968 US presidents with ETS then they will 117 00:07:09,990 --> 00:07:15,210 you know this will cause them to 118 00:07:11,968 --> 00:07:19,259 completely shut down all their senses 119 00:07:15,209 --> 00:07:22,788 you know completely block a block away 120 00:07:19,259 --> 00:07:25,259 is called cognitive dissonance 121 00:07:22,788 --> 00:07:27,538 because they can update they just cannot 122 00:07:25,259 --> 00:07:30,479 grasp the information because they do 123 00:07:27,538 --> 00:07:34,829 not have the basic the basic knowledge 124 00:07:30,478 --> 00:07:37,918 that one should have in an informed 125 00:07:34,829 --> 00:07:40,859 debate if you want to have an informed 126 00:07:37,918 --> 00:07:43,500 opinion if you want to have an informed 127 00:07:40,860 --> 00:07:46,560 discussion so we try to solve this 128 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:50,899 problem by establishing several sections 129 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:53,490 this is a XO vision it's XO knowledge 130 00:07:50,899 --> 00:07:56,728 there you find all the the primary 131 00:07:53,490 --> 00:08:01,620 information like information that is 132 00:07:56,728 --> 00:08:03,568 both valuable for journalists and the 133 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:06,209 public because they can because it 134 00:08:03,569 --> 00:08:10,528 enables them to to do the research 135 00:08:06,209 --> 00:08:15,870 themselves so I put a lot of attention 136 00:08:10,528 --> 00:08:18,300 in defining or in naming the sources 137 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:21,689 where I have these information this 138 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:24,538 information from so that people can can 139 00:08:21,689 --> 00:08:26,338 go and do the research themselves then 140 00:08:24,538 --> 00:08:30,348 we have a premium section and this is 141 00:08:26,338 --> 00:08:33,620 where we hide the advanced knowledge 142 00:08:30,348 --> 00:08:37,889 from the eyes of the uninformed public 143 00:08:33,620 --> 00:08:40,769 and and people have to pay a membership 144 00:08:37,889 --> 00:08:42,958 fee to be able to access this 145 00:08:40,769 --> 00:08:44,818 second section which is the Exim 146 00:08:42,958 --> 00:08:47,159 magazine and then we have the exo 147 00:08:44,818 --> 00:08:51,748 community which is an online community 148 00:08:47,159 --> 00:08:54,838 with currently 3000 almost 3,000 members 149 00:08:51,749 --> 00:08:57,319 and activists who are part of 150 00:08:54,839 --> 00:09:00,929 Exopolitics Germany some of whom 151 00:08:57,318 --> 00:09:03,860 contribute to our cause some of them are 152 00:09:00,928 --> 00:09:07,409 just there to exchange information among 153 00:09:03,860 --> 00:09:16,259 activists and members and this is by the 154 00:09:07,409 --> 00:09:18,719 way my profile page and yeah so it's 155 00:09:16,259 --> 00:09:22,318 around 3000 it's according to the 156 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:27,389 counter on its front page page it's 2942 157 00:09:22,318 --> 00:09:30,328 members to be precise so why are we 158 00:09:27,389 --> 00:09:33,448 doing all this the extra community is is 159 00:09:30,328 --> 00:09:38,008 is really important because the subject 160 00:09:33,448 --> 00:09:41,278 is the subject of UFOs is something 161 00:09:38,009 --> 00:09:43,499 which doesn't exist at all in Germany 162 00:09:41,278 --> 00:09:48,028 not in the public just not the public 163 00:09:43,499 --> 00:09:49,528 debate you know most people aren't even 164 00:09:48,028 --> 00:09:51,448 interested in it 165 00:09:49,528 --> 00:09:53,850 most people have heard that there is 166 00:09:51,448 --> 00:09:55,469 something like UFOs and it's eg craft 167 00:09:53,850 --> 00:09:58,079 and we all know that it only comes from 168 00:09:55,470 --> 00:10:01,678 Hollywood movies and it's it's not real 169 00:09:58,078 --> 00:10:03,448 you know but on the other hand there are 170 00:10:01,678 --> 00:10:08,068 many people who have had experiences 171 00:10:03,448 --> 00:10:11,698 themselves and who who just want to talk 172 00:10:08,068 --> 00:10:15,899 about what they what they found out what 173 00:10:11,698 --> 00:10:17,548 they feel is important and and this EXO 174 00:10:15,899 --> 00:10:20,970 community gives them for the very first 175 00:10:17,548 --> 00:10:24,048 time in Germany actually the the means 176 00:10:20,970 --> 00:10:31,230 to discuss and to communicate about this 177 00:10:24,048 --> 00:10:33,899 online so so that's good I think as I 178 00:10:31,230 --> 00:10:38,069 said there's no such thing as UFOs in 179 00:10:33,899 --> 00:10:40,168 Germany and I think this is from what 180 00:10:38,068 --> 00:10:42,958 I've heard it's probably the same in the 181 00:10:40,168 --> 00:10:45,418 Czech Republic right I don't know if 182 00:10:42,958 --> 00:10:47,068 your government if you even know of 183 00:10:45,418 --> 00:10:48,749 government officials from the Czech 184 00:10:47,068 --> 00:10:52,198 Republic who have ever said anything 185 00:10:48,749 --> 00:10:53,939 about UFOs or are there politicians in 186 00:10:52,198 --> 00:10:55,008 the Czech Republic who say anything 187 00:10:53,938 --> 00:11:01,318 about 188 00:10:55,009 --> 00:11:06,959 no no okay so you see we still have lots 189 00:11:01,318 --> 00:11:11,178 lots of things in common so this is a 190 00:11:06,958 --> 00:11:14,359 former Federal Minister of the Interior 191 00:11:11,178 --> 00:11:18,899 who was once asked on an online platform 192 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:21,389 about you know secret UFO projects in 193 00:11:18,899 --> 00:11:23,428 Germany and stuff and he said there's no 194 00:11:21,389 --> 00:11:25,499 federal authority or institution that 195 00:11:23,428 --> 00:11:27,149 registers evaluates or deals with 196 00:11:25,499 --> 00:11:30,839 alleged sightings of unknown flying 197 00:11:27,149 --> 00:11:34,110 objects in fact he said there is no 198 00:11:30,839 --> 00:11:38,519 federal authority or institution known 199 00:11:34,110 --> 00:11:40,350 here that registers or evaluates or 200 00:11:38,519 --> 00:11:43,318 deals with alleged sightings of unknown 201 00:11:40,350 --> 00:11:45,449 flying objects so I found this is an 202 00:11:43,318 --> 00:11:48,509 interesting statement being at the 203 00:11:45,448 --> 00:11:50,099 Federal Minister of the Interior he I 204 00:11:48,509 --> 00:11:53,548 think he should know if there is 205 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:57,899 something or not you know and there have 206 00:11:53,548 --> 00:11:59,578 been some attempts by members of 207 00:11:57,899 --> 00:12:03,448 parliament of the Federal Parliament 208 00:11:59,578 --> 00:12:06,958 which is the Bundestag in Germany the 209 00:12:03,448 --> 00:12:10,289 Bundestag and they wanted to try out 210 00:12:06,958 --> 00:12:11,789 they wanted to find out if if the 211 00:12:10,289 --> 00:12:15,298 government knows anything and and they 212 00:12:11,789 --> 00:12:17,759 they asked official questions official 213 00:12:15,298 --> 00:12:21,438 inquiries which they made to the German 214 00:12:17,759 --> 00:12:25,769 government so this is for example a 215 00:12:21,438 --> 00:12:27,958 deputy from the Liberal Party FTP he 216 00:12:25,769 --> 00:12:30,509 wanted to know how many sightings of 217 00:12:27,958 --> 00:12:33,208 so-called UFOs or extraterrestrials in 218 00:12:30,509 --> 00:12:36,389 Germany has the German government 219 00:12:33,208 --> 00:12:38,488 registered since the year 2000 and does 220 00:12:36,389 --> 00:12:41,519 the federal government intend to release 221 00:12:38,489 --> 00:12:43,499 its files about UFO sightings to now 222 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:47,100 that the French and the British have 223 00:12:43,499 --> 00:12:50,668 published their files you know I think 224 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:53,610 this is justified question oh by the way 225 00:12:50,668 --> 00:12:58,409 I have to set up my my time or here my 226 00:12:53,610 --> 00:13:03,720 my egg timer because if I don't do it we 227 00:12:58,409 --> 00:13:05,639 were standing here tomorrow so and the 228 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:08,220 answer of the federal government is that 229 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:09,950 it does not have any knowledge about 230 00:13:08,220 --> 00:13:12,629 writings of so-called UFOs or 231 00:13:09,950 --> 00:13:14,759 extraterrestrials in Germany therefore 232 00:13:12,629 --> 00:13:17,250 there are no such files about UFO 233 00:13:14,759 --> 00:13:20,429 sightings which are available for 234 00:13:17,250 --> 00:13:22,740 release and there's also another deputy 235 00:13:20,429 --> 00:13:26,120 of the German Bundestag so that's the 236 00:13:22,740 --> 00:13:29,190 federal parliament who wanted to know 237 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:31,200 how the federal government estimates the 238 00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:33,960 probability of the reality of 239 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,660 intelligent extraterrestrial life and 240 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:39,300 how does it estimate the probability 241 00:13:36,659 --> 00:13:42,449 that extraterrestrials might land on 242 00:13:39,299 --> 00:13:46,709 German territory and of course the 243 00:13:42,450 --> 00:13:49,200 answer of the government is the German 244 00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:51,060 federal government does not have any 245 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,840 knowledge which would allow to estimate 246 00:13:51,059 --> 00:13:56,309 the probability of the reality of 247 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,960 extraterrestrial life you see the 248 00:13:56,309 --> 00:14:02,159 Germans they like nouns you know that's 249 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:04,259 why probability reality however given 250 00:14:02,159 --> 00:14:05,990 current scientific knowledge the 251 00:14:04,259 --> 00:14:08,819 likelihood of a landing of 252 00:14:05,990 --> 00:14:13,889 extraterrestrials on German territory is 253 00:14:08,820 --> 00:14:15,030 considered out of the question out of 254 00:14:13,889 --> 00:14:17,340 the question 255 00:14:15,029 --> 00:14:19,139 you know it's completely out of the 256 00:14:17,340 --> 00:14:21,180 question that ETS would ever land on 257 00:14:19,139 --> 00:14:23,490 German territory and that is an 258 00:14:21,179 --> 00:14:25,679 astounding statement I thought because 259 00:14:23,490 --> 00:14:29,730 if you say it's out of the question 260 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:31,049 means that this should be must be 261 00:14:29,730 --> 00:14:33,000 something that you suggest which is 262 00:14:31,049 --> 00:14:35,159 completely impossible that nobody has 263 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:39,509 ever thought of you know that it could 264 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:45,299 ever occur and in fact there is a CIA 265 00:14:39,509 --> 00:14:47,750 document from 1952 discussing a UFO 266 00:14:45,299 --> 00:14:51,059 landing in Germany this is not 267 00:14:47,750 --> 00:14:56,389 classified information or anything it's 268 00:14:51,059 --> 00:15:00,899 just a report from a press report in 269 00:14:56,389 --> 00:15:02,909 Greece unevaluated information that's 270 00:15:00,899 --> 00:15:06,659 what I wanted to say but it says flying 271 00:15:02,909 --> 00:15:09,179 saucers in East Germany so the report 272 00:15:06,659 --> 00:15:12,329 talks about Oscar linka who was a former 273 00:15:09,179 --> 00:15:16,189 East German mayor and his daughter 274 00:15:12,330 --> 00:15:19,200 Gabriella who were on their way home and 275 00:15:16,190 --> 00:15:21,200 had to leave their motorcycle when they 276 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,389 had a flat tire 277 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:26,540 and inside the woods the girl noticed 278 00:15:23,389 --> 00:15:29,028 two men and silvery suits examining the 279 00:15:26,539 --> 00:15:33,259 ground in a clearing near a pink disc 280 00:15:29,028 --> 00:15:36,078 shape disc-shaped object 13 to 50 meters 281 00:15:33,259 --> 00:15:38,028 in diameter showing a double row of 282 00:15:36,078 --> 00:15:41,778 openings around the rim and a black 283 00:15:38,028 --> 00:15:45,439 conical tower on top one of the men had 284 00:15:41,778 --> 00:15:48,259 some kind of a flashing box both men 285 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:51,110 went inside when they were discovered or 286 00:15:48,259 --> 00:15:53,990 when they when they realized that they 287 00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:56,389 were being watched by Oscar linker the 288 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:58,850 mayor and his daughter and they went 289 00:15:56,389 --> 00:16:00,948 inside the the the disk the disk 290 00:15:58,850 --> 00:16:04,100 vibrated rows along the cone-shaped 291 00:16:00,948 --> 00:16:06,769 cylinder and then spun faster and rose 292 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:10,060 out of sight and the witness described 293 00:16:06,769 --> 00:16:13,600 the object as some sort of a frying pan 294 00:16:10,059 --> 00:16:17,299 and that's because in East Germany in 295 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:21,769 1952 nobody had ever heard of flying 296 00:16:17,299 --> 00:16:26,088 saucers or UFOs because that was not 297 00:16:21,769 --> 00:16:30,049 part of the communist or let's say that 298 00:16:26,089 --> 00:16:33,170 was not part of the of the vocabulary 299 00:16:30,049 --> 00:16:37,458 that a good communist at that time had 300 00:16:33,169 --> 00:16:41,889 at his availability so you see the 301 00:16:37,458 --> 00:16:47,078 situation in Germany is basically 302 00:16:41,889 --> 00:16:50,088 comparable to two fish in a fish tank as 303 00:16:47,078 --> 00:16:52,609 standing on the table somewhere in a 304 00:16:50,089 --> 00:16:58,970 living room you know next to a ringing 305 00:16:52,610 --> 00:17:00,919 telephone did you know that fish they 306 00:16:58,970 --> 00:17:04,850 are supposed to have a memory of only 307 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:07,099 two seconds so when the fish they make 308 00:17:04,849 --> 00:17:09,109 their rounds here in this glass you know 309 00:17:07,099 --> 00:17:11,568 whenever they they cross this sign which 310 00:17:09,109 --> 00:17:14,119 says this way swim this way you know 311 00:17:11,568 --> 00:17:15,918 it's always a new thing for the fish you 312 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,769 know - Oh since when is there a sign 313 00:17:15,919 --> 00:17:20,900 here Oh have you seen the sign before 314 00:17:17,769 --> 00:17:23,660 wow there's a sign have you seen this so 315 00:17:20,900 --> 00:17:25,309 this is a kind of the limited let's say 316 00:17:23,660 --> 00:17:29,210 level of consciousness that we dispose 317 00:17:25,308 --> 00:17:32,480 of and one of you know if one of the 318 00:17:29,210 --> 00:17:34,400 fish ever dares to ask the question you 319 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,009 know if one of the fish 320 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,230 stops and dares to ask the question do 321 00:17:37,009 --> 00:17:42,470 you think there's maybe something else 322 00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:44,089 out there we might not understand then 323 00:17:42,470 --> 00:17:46,370 the other fish will make sure that he 324 00:17:44,089 --> 00:17:48,919 will keep on swimming and stop asking 325 00:17:46,369 --> 00:17:54,199 questions come on there's more important 326 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:58,400 things to do in Germany and that's a 327 00:17:54,200 --> 00:18:01,069 situation honestly nobody really cares 328 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:04,820 about UFOs and there is no and there's 329 00:18:01,069 --> 00:18:10,389 no serious news reporting on it and it 330 00:18:04,819 --> 00:18:14,029 has been like this for the 3040 years 331 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:16,640 but then suddenly there was a big news 332 00:18:14,029 --> 00:18:18,920 report suddenly the German mainstream 333 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:23,450 press started reporting on the German 334 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:25,910 Bundestag having a UFO secret the 335 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:29,029 headline here in this article says the 336 00:18:25,910 --> 00:18:30,920 Bundestag x-files so remember the 337 00:18:29,029 --> 00:18:34,460 Bundestag is the German Federal 338 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:38,060 Parliament and it has a scientific 339 00:18:34,460 --> 00:18:42,759 research service which is a department 340 00:18:38,059 --> 00:18:45,950 of the Bundestag administration with 341 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:48,379 filled with scientists from all kinds of 342 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:51,650 branches of science and whenever a 343 00:18:48,380 --> 00:18:54,200 deputy of the German Bundestag needs 344 00:18:51,650 --> 00:18:57,590 scientific assistance needs help and 345 00:18:54,200 --> 00:19:00,110 advice not advice but like factual help 346 00:18:57,589 --> 00:19:02,329 from scientists they go to that 347 00:19:00,109 --> 00:19:05,750 department and say could you make a 348 00:19:02,329 --> 00:19:09,519 study about this and that I needed for 349 00:19:05,750 --> 00:19:12,319 my political decision so it turns out 350 00:19:09,519 --> 00:19:16,309 that the Bundestag Scientific Research 351 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:23,450 Service has redacted has redacted a UFO 352 00:19:16,309 --> 00:19:26,119 study and in that study they say that 353 00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:30,190 what they they they believe that the 354 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:33,829 German government does in official UFO 355 00:19:30,190 --> 00:19:36,470 investigation and this article deals 356 00:19:33,829 --> 00:19:39,439 with an upcoming trial in front of the 357 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:42,589 Berlin Administrative Court regarding 358 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:47,080 the release of that study and that trial 359 00:19:42,589 --> 00:19:52,089 took place on December 1st 2011 360 00:19:47,079 --> 00:19:58,179 and this is the claimant Frank the vitae 361 00:19:52,089 --> 00:20:01,029 Maia there the headline says this Berlin 362 00:19:58,180 --> 00:20:01,980 citizen wants to open the Bundestag UFO 363 00:20:01,029 --> 00:20:06,910 FILES 364 00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:10,029 and now he sued the Bundestag 365 00:20:06,910 --> 00:20:14,050 administration because he tried he had 366 00:20:10,029 --> 00:20:17,920 tried to get access to that undisclosed 367 00:20:14,049 --> 00:20:19,629 UFO study undertaken by the Scientific 368 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:24,490 Research Service of the Bundestag and 369 00:20:19,630 --> 00:20:27,340 they denied it so he did it again under 370 00:20:24,490 --> 00:20:29,650 the German Freedom of Information Act I 371 00:20:27,339 --> 00:20:33,429 would like to know by the way do you 372 00:20:29,650 --> 00:20:36,759 have a Freedom of Information Act in the 373 00:20:33,430 --> 00:20:45,580 Czech Republic you have and how for how 374 00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:47,710 long 20 years ok so that's great you 375 00:20:45,579 --> 00:20:50,589 know congratulations because in Germany 376 00:20:47,710 --> 00:20:53,440 the the Freedom of Information Act is 377 00:20:50,589 --> 00:20:55,240 something that is relatively new it's 6 378 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,490 years that we have the Freedom of 379 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:00,370 Information Act so freedom of 380 00:20:57,490 --> 00:21:02,740 information for German for the German 381 00:21:00,369 --> 00:21:05,709 government is a concept that is 382 00:21:02,740 --> 00:21:09,250 relatively new and that is how they 383 00:21:05,710 --> 00:21:12,160 behave as well so he made that Freedom 384 00:21:09,250 --> 00:21:14,829 of Information Act request and it was 385 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,990 denied so he sued the Bundestag 386 00:21:14,829 --> 00:21:21,549 administration for the release of that 387 00:21:16,990 --> 00:21:24,700 study and the Bundestag says they won't 388 00:21:21,549 --> 00:21:26,409 have to release the study because it 389 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:30,549 does not fall under the Freedom of 390 00:21:26,410 --> 00:21:33,310 Information Act and and in any case they 391 00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:36,009 have the intellectual property rights of 392 00:21:33,309 --> 00:21:40,329 that study and therefore the right of 393 00:21:36,009 --> 00:21:44,470 first publication and they decide not to 394 00:21:40,329 --> 00:21:51,129 publish it so basically poop off you 395 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:54,490 know that's what they say I covered the 396 00:21:51,130 --> 00:21:59,290 the trial the the this trial in front of 397 00:21:54,490 --> 00:22:00,999 the Berlin Administrative Court and I 398 00:21:59,289 --> 00:22:05,168 made the following short 399 00:22:00,999 --> 00:22:07,899 report for our website later I found out 400 00:22:05,169 --> 00:22:12,179 that some mainstream media especially 401 00:22:07,898 --> 00:22:17,558 the Deutschland funk which is a big 402 00:22:12,179 --> 00:22:20,109 public news network in Germany they they 403 00:22:17,558 --> 00:22:23,798 simply stole my parts of the interview 404 00:22:20,108 --> 00:22:24,728 and and and and broadcast it without 405 00:22:23,798 --> 00:22:27,338 asking me 406 00:22:24,729 --> 00:22:30,699 but it's alright for me because you know 407 00:22:27,338 --> 00:22:33,759 that's that's after all the reason why 408 00:22:30,699 --> 00:22:36,219 we do this work it's because we want to 409 00:22:33,759 --> 00:22:42,028 inform about the whole subject so this 410 00:22:36,219 --> 00:22:45,278 is the the report and i hope i hope that 411 00:22:42,028 --> 00:22:48,608 these fabulous amazing a conference 412 00:22:45,278 --> 00:22:52,479 interpreters will be able to interpret 413 00:22:48,608 --> 00:22:56,078 it real time the from subtitles that are 414 00:22:52,479 --> 00:22:58,719 in English Frank Wright Amaya is kind 415 00:22:56,078 --> 00:23:00,249 tube for high bazaar gerado is a foreign 416 00:22:58,719 --> 00:23:02,679 five items correct belly medium 417 00:23:00,249 --> 00:23:03,368 Bundestag angle eked on an innate a busy 418 00:23:02,679 --> 00:23:05,019 woman 419 00:23:03,368 --> 00:23:07,058 that's correct and she does the 420 00:23:05,019 --> 00:23:14,138 Bundestag and Abbas Lanka hime guide now 421 00:23:07,058 --> 00:23:16,118 also by tone before I get most us in 422 00:23:14,138 --> 00:23:19,898 Spanish Lyndon in Frankish in England 423 00:23:16,118 --> 00:23:22,028 was a Kannada the bugarach means in Qin 424 00:23:19,898 --> 00:23:24,608 when if in a storage shelf or 425 00:23:22,028 --> 00:23:28,538 MyNetworkTV even 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00:25:09,609 --> 00:25:14,399 soon a standard album of the business 470 00:25:11,829 --> 00:25:16,539 after he'd insist origin Bundestag 471 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,290 diamond from Athens fires because that's 472 00:25:16,539 --> 00:25:21,089 wonderful 473 00:25:17,289 --> 00:25:24,279 wouldn't lie sidekick files designs or 474 00:25:21,089 --> 00:25:26,949 tourism softly here Dean's seems as a 475 00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:27,668 bonus tax FC of whatever vector the who 476 00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:31,240 from Canon 477 00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:33,460 - that's that's a key also Biderman from 478 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,960 business after hint in Stanley cornet 479 00:25:33,460 --> 00:25:35,919 emphatic we hadn't pushed him division 480 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,200 roughly hidden stuff me give you 481 00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:40,179 survival equality commit on the ship in 482 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,819 from the mine on justice infamous wounds 483 00:25:40,179 --> 00:25:46,090 fires 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Wonka now das phase of 485 00:25:46,089 --> 00:25:50,500 the Bundestag met Alan mitten sofa 486 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,410 hinden then vast eveson shaft hit in 487 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:55,779 Sleaford since it had China texture 488 00:25:53,410 --> 00:25:58,509 daemonfeuer a Philistine merger sit 489 00:25:55,779 --> 00:26:00,879 heart and Oz characters hidden files 490 00:25:58,509 --> 00:26:03,759 understood adopted in Clara is aged in 491 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,429 the all Sabaton air Bundestag Hutterites 492 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:09,220 Peru fungus or tile Unger condition on 493 00:26:06,429 --> 00:26:11,740 our Frank Wright mayest also Frieden in 494 00:26:09,220 --> 00:26:18,100 a veil destroyed slanty a configure a 495 00:26:11,740 --> 00:26:20,710 man often leaked a very schmidt ma'am 496 00:26:18,099 --> 00:26:21,759 invite an Olaf do not nor my coach 497 00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:24,789 reason 498 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:27,460 verse via ethnic streets Mahadeva - yeah 499 00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:28,639 and critic of my god the Oakland Zoo 500 00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:33,829 Vedas and Swansea 501 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:36,080 Oh religious undo virtus Juanita let's 502 00:26:33,829 --> 00:26:38,449 the processor Frank light Amaya on Zanon 503 00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:41,329 invades I'm transparent elegans 504 00:26:38,450 --> 00:26:43,279 information about a force xuit vast 505 00:26:41,329 --> 00:26:48,980 Marcus realized Anders woogie beam in 506 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:54,319 deutschland hidden files knock niched so 507 00:26:48,980 --> 00:26:56,150 in Germany we're still waiting for the 508 00:26:54,319 --> 00:27:05,149 government to understand what Freedom of 509 00:26:56,150 --> 00:27:06,590 Information is all about just right but 510 00:27:05,150 --> 00:27:10,580 wouldn't it be interesting to have 511 00:27:06,589 --> 00:27:14,559 access to the studies of the scientific 512 00:27:10,579 --> 00:27:18,259 research service of the German Bundestag 513 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:21,950 after all they do not only bright 514 00:27:18,259 --> 00:27:25,700 studies about UFOs or whatever you know 515 00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:29,509 but they sometimes they also contribute 516 00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:31,490 to the dissertations of members of the 517 00:27:29,509 --> 00:27:37,609 Parliament I don't know if you are aware 518 00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:41,539 of our of a former defense minister he 519 00:27:37,609 --> 00:27:45,309 had to leave his his position as a 520 00:27:41,539 --> 00:27:48,980 defense minister he was actually fired 521 00:27:45,309 --> 00:27:50,690 when when it became public that the 522 00:27:48,980 --> 00:27:53,650 Scientific Research Service had 523 00:27:50,690 --> 00:27:57,500 contributed diplomatically said 524 00:27:53,650 --> 00:28:02,720 contributed to his dissertation in I 525 00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:05,660 think 16 cases or let me say it let me 526 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:08,059 put it otherwise he he had committed 527 00:28:05,660 --> 00:28:09,740 somebody had commissioned studies at the 528 00:28:08,059 --> 00:28:13,809 Scientific Research Service and he had 529 00:28:09,740 --> 00:28:17,450 just copied it into his dissertation so 530 00:28:13,809 --> 00:28:20,629 that's fraud that is why he lost his 531 00:28:17,450 --> 00:28:24,590 doctor title and that is why he also had 532 00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:27,410 to leave his office and I guess that 533 00:28:24,589 --> 00:28:29,829 part of the reason why the Bundestag 534 00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:33,710 administration absolutely does not want 535 00:28:29,829 --> 00:28:37,789 that study to be to become public 536 00:28:33,710 --> 00:28:40,009 because it would mean that you know it 537 00:28:37,789 --> 00:28:41,960 would be a fundamental decision it would 538 00:28:40,009 --> 00:28:44,720 mean that any each and every 539 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,490 study ever undertaken by the Scientific 540 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,130 Research Service would be open to the 541 00:28:46,490 --> 00:28:51,470 public and the public could find out and 542 00:28:49,130 --> 00:28:54,649 try to find out for themselves 543 00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:57,528 who else has had certain contributions 544 00:28:54,648 --> 00:29:00,500 in his dissertations so how many more 545 00:28:57,528 --> 00:29:04,579 doctor titles are at stake at the German 546 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:10,278 Federal Parliament that's what this 547 00:29:04,579 --> 00:29:12,798 trial is about also is also about so but 548 00:29:10,278 --> 00:29:15,769 let's go back to the study done by the 549 00:29:12,798 --> 00:29:18,079 the Bundestag Scientific Research 550 00:29:15,769 --> 00:29:21,349 Service this these are the title the 551 00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:23,778 front pages of these studies it's 552 00:29:21,349 --> 00:29:25,548 actually two studies by the Scientific 553 00:29:23,778 --> 00:29:28,490 Research Service this is the first one 554 00:29:25,548 --> 00:29:32,960 it says the search for extraterrestrial 555 00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:38,210 life and the implementation of United 556 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:40,870 Nations resolution a 33 4 to 6 about 557 00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:44,750 observation of unidentified flying 558 00:29:40,869 --> 00:29:49,849 objects and extraterrestrial life-forms 559 00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:52,640 and the second study is this one called 560 00:29:49,849 --> 00:30:00,278 the European Union and its policy 561 00:29:52,640 --> 00:30:04,450 regarding unidentified flying objects so 562 00:30:00,278 --> 00:30:07,669 what what is what is this United Nations 563 00:30:04,450 --> 00:30:12,950 resolution all about I will come to that 564 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:16,009 right now you know I do not have the 565 00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:18,798 right to publish the studies from the 566 00:30:16,009 --> 00:30:21,319 scientific research service even if I 567 00:30:18,798 --> 00:30:24,859 have them in their entirety I have the 568 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:27,139 whole thing but I must not publish them 569 00:30:24,859 --> 00:30:29,298 I'm not allowed to publish them I can 570 00:30:27,140 --> 00:30:33,740 only quote from them as a journalist so 571 00:30:29,298 --> 00:30:37,970 let me quote what what the Scientific 572 00:30:33,740 --> 00:30:41,000 Research Service says in detail they 573 00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:43,370 believe it is highly unlikely that the 574 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:49,808 German government has never undertaken 575 00:30:43,369 --> 00:30:52,129 any UFO research because they say here 576 00:30:49,808 --> 00:30:54,200 the there was a very pronounced 577 00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:55,309 sentiment of conflict between east and 578 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,919 west 579 00:30:55,308 --> 00:31:01,579 back in 1978 so that was the Cold War 580 00:30:57,919 --> 00:31:04,519 you know thus at least in a military 581 00:31:01,579 --> 00:31:06,980 perspective the interest at parties at 582 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:09,620 that time could very well have had a 583 00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:12,980 need to follow up on UFO reports or 584 00:31:09,619 --> 00:31:15,648 appearances and to investigate them the 585 00:31:12,980 --> 00:31:19,099 actual or supposed development of new 586 00:31:15,648 --> 00:31:21,678 craft spy satellites etc by the military 587 00:31:19,099 --> 00:31:24,498 opponent might have given enough reason 588 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:27,950 for them in the past also in Germany to 589 00:31:24,499 --> 00:31:30,769 deal with such questions and it is 590 00:31:27,950 --> 00:31:32,269 logical I mean think about it you know 591 00:31:30,769 --> 00:31:35,569 the Russians were afraid of the 592 00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:37,999 Americans of the American drones 593 00:31:35,569 --> 00:31:41,048 you know Michael Sela said in his showed 594 00:31:37,999 --> 00:31:45,230 in his presentation the example of the 595 00:31:41,048 --> 00:31:47,418 the the document that showed that the 596 00:31:45,230 --> 00:31:51,710 Americans were actually afraid the 597 00:31:47,419 --> 00:31:54,889 Soviets would use UFO staged sightings 598 00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:57,139 or appearances to cause paranoia or mass 599 00:31:54,888 --> 00:32:00,138 hysteria so that they would use it for 600 00:31:57,138 --> 00:32:01,638 psychological warfare you know also the 601 00:32:00,138 --> 00:32:04,758 Russians were of course afraid of the 602 00:32:01,638 --> 00:32:07,089 Americans as well and that is that is 603 00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:09,649 the main reason why they looked at unite 604 00:32:07,089 --> 00:32:14,628 unidentified flying objects that's the 605 00:32:09,648 --> 00:32:19,008 main reason for it so you know how how 606 00:32:14,628 --> 00:32:22,189 likely is it that there was no there was 607 00:32:19,009 --> 00:32:24,889 no investigation of UFOs in Germany 608 00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:27,379 where the border the front line of the 609 00:32:24,888 --> 00:32:33,528 Cold War led directly through our 610 00:32:27,378 --> 00:32:35,599 country how likely is that so let's 611 00:32:33,528 --> 00:32:40,548 let's get go to that United Nations 612 00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:42,398 resolution a 33 4 to 6 from 1978 because 613 00:32:40,548 --> 00:32:45,230 this is really interesting to know that 614 00:32:42,398 --> 00:32:47,628 even if the subject of UFOs has been 615 00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:51,200 treated with so much really cure by the 616 00:32:47,628 --> 00:32:55,939 mass media it used to be a serious 617 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:58,159 subject 34 years ago it was even it was 618 00:32:55,940 --> 00:33:00,889 so serious there was even it was even 619 00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:03,590 debated at the United Nations and this 620 00:33:00,888 --> 00:33:07,639 is just a part of United Nations 621 00:33:03,589 --> 00:33:10,399 resolution 33 4 to 6 a quote 622 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,080 the General Assembly invites intrested 623 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,740 Member States to take appropriate steps 624 00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:17,210 to coordinate on a national level 625 00:33:14,740 --> 00:33:20,390 scientific research and investigation 626 00:33:17,210 --> 00:33:22,759 into extraterrestrial life including 627 00:33:20,390 --> 00:33:24,350 unidentified flying objects and to 628 00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:27,140 inform the secretary-general of the 629 00:33:24,349 --> 00:33:35,389 observations research and evaluation of 630 00:33:27,140 --> 00:33:37,490 such activities so what exactly does the 631 00:33:35,390 --> 00:33:40,669 study from the Scientific Research 632 00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:43,009 Service of the Bundestag say about that 633 00:33:40,669 --> 00:33:47,030 resolution why was it never adopted in 634 00:33:43,009 --> 00:33:49,129 Germany they say resolutions adopted by 635 00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:52,099 the United Nations General Assembly are 636 00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:54,970 regularly treated as merely recommended 637 00:33:52,099 --> 00:33:57,409 Tory so they're just a recommendation 638 00:33:54,970 --> 00:34:01,100 they are therefore not legally binding 639 00:33:57,410 --> 00:34:05,690 and impose no legal obligation no 640 00:34:01,099 --> 00:34:08,089 obligation to take action so that's all 641 00:34:05,690 --> 00:34:09,769 that they say about it you know but we 642 00:34:08,090 --> 00:34:11,869 still don't know why it wasn't adopted 643 00:34:09,769 --> 00:34:14,570 in Germany this is just a presumption 644 00:34:11,869 --> 00:34:18,409 from the scientists who wrote this you 645 00:34:14,570 --> 00:34:22,070 know we still don't know what was what 646 00:34:18,409 --> 00:34:26,510 was going on at that time how they 647 00:34:22,070 --> 00:34:30,470 reacted why you know and what was the 648 00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:32,600 German position on it and I had hoped to 649 00:34:30,469 --> 00:34:34,759 find the answer in that study of the 650 00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:37,699 Scientific Research Service and I didn't 651 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:41,780 find it so I continued my research in in 652 00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:43,849 in this regard and I went I went to 653 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:44,389 several you know I did a couple of 654 00:34:43,849 --> 00:34:45,980 things 655 00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:47,960 I approached several departments 656 00:34:45,980 --> 00:34:50,990 authorities and asked them that question 657 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:55,878 and then finally I had the idea to go to 658 00:34:50,989 --> 00:35:02,029 the federal Foreign Office of the German 659 00:34:55,878 --> 00:35:04,880 government because if they you know if 660 00:35:02,030 --> 00:35:06,950 this subject was was talked about at the 661 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:11,090 United Nations then the German Federal 662 00:35:06,949 --> 00:35:13,309 Foreign Office should know and so I went 663 00:35:11,090 --> 00:35:17,180 there at the political archives in 664 00:35:13,309 --> 00:35:20,750 Berlin and it took me a couple of weeks 665 00:35:17,179 --> 00:35:23,960 though to to find the files 666 00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:26,690 and I found them but German UFO FILES 667 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:31,670 from the German Federal Foreign Office 668 00:35:26,690 --> 00:35:37,070 and yeah this so this is the cover page 669 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:41,900 and yeah and what can I tell you I made 670 00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:44,210 an official inquiry I asked them for for 671 00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:48,079 their permission to publish those files 672 00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:52,070 and guess what I'm not allowed to 673 00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:54,769 publish those files neither they said 674 00:35:52,070 --> 00:35:56,600 what do you want to publish it mr. 675 00:35:54,769 --> 00:35:59,300 Fleischer this is a quote from an email 676 00:35:56,599 --> 00:36:01,549 they sent to me after my inquiry they 677 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:03,560 said mr. Fleischer the Federal Foreign 678 00:36:01,550 --> 00:36:05,980 Office cannot give you permission to 679 00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:09,529 publish the files indicated in your 680 00:36:05,980 --> 00:36:11,840 request sorry for my bad english it 681 00:36:09,530 --> 00:36:14,690 shouldn't say application should say 682 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,230 request those our official documents 683 00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:20,960 which must be protected from misuse and 684 00:36:17,230 --> 00:36:24,800 manipulation in the public a publication 685 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:29,829 by you for logical organizations would 686 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:35,930 bear that risk I you know I have to say 687 00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:39,170 when I read this email I used a very bad 688 00:36:35,929 --> 00:36:42,699 German swear word and I don't even have 689 00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:45,670 any expression in English for what 690 00:36:42,699 --> 00:36:48,649 what's my opinion about this because 691 00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:53,240 I've worked with so many politicians 692 00:36:48,650 --> 00:36:54,680 with so many people you know and and so 693 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,809 many journalists and mainstream 694 00:36:54,679 --> 00:37:01,699 organized mainstream media organizations 695 00:36:56,809 --> 00:37:05,929 and there has not never been even one of 696 00:37:01,699 --> 00:37:07,730 them he was ever dared to to suggest 697 00:37:05,929 --> 00:37:11,299 that I would present manipulated 698 00:37:07,730 --> 00:37:15,199 information so you see I you know I tend 699 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:18,710 to take it personally but of course this 700 00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:20,269 is not a personal issue and this is why 701 00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:21,679 I'm not going to look into the 702 00:37:20,269 --> 00:37:22,340 dictionary for the swear word I'm 703 00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:25,819 looking for 704 00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:27,590 but but of course I'm a journalist being 705 00:37:25,820 --> 00:37:30,980 a journalist 706 00:37:27,590 --> 00:37:33,170 maybe they they can deny me to publish 707 00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:34,550 the file in their entirety but I am 708 00:37:33,170 --> 00:37:37,340 allowed to quote from it 709 00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:42,039 of course so what you need for a 710 00:37:37,340 --> 00:37:51,470 quotation you need the quotation marks 711 00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:55,460 right and and and yeah so this is the 712 00:37:51,469 --> 00:37:59,869 the first page so here it says UFOs this 713 00:37:55,460 --> 00:38:06,079 is a referent to 230 who used to deal 714 00:37:59,869 --> 00:38:08,269 with the correspondence between the 715 00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:10,159 German Federal Foreign Office and its 716 00:38:08,269 --> 00:38:14,929 permanent mission to the United Nations 717 00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:20,079 in New York and let me just keep on 718 00:38:14,929 --> 00:38:23,299 quoting here this is a telegram from 719 00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:26,059 West Germany's permanent mission to the 720 00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:30,620 United Nations to the federal Foreign 721 00:38:26,059 --> 00:38:36,289 Office in Bonn from November 28 1978 so 722 00:38:30,619 --> 00:38:41,239 that was one day after it was decided 723 00:38:36,289 --> 00:38:44,360 and it says in this telegram Grenada has 724 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:46,339 presented a resolution draft on UFOs at 725 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:49,519 the special political committee which 726 00:38:46,340 --> 00:38:52,519 proposes the establishment of an expert 727 00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:55,460 group that is supposed to define the 728 00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:59,300 framework for United Nations Studies 729 00:38:55,460 --> 00:39:02,320 about the UFO phenomenon under the 730 00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:07,700 supervision of the outer space committee 731 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:10,220 and then they go on to state quite apart 732 00:39:07,699 --> 00:39:12,949 from the wider implications of such 733 00:39:10,219 --> 00:39:15,159 resolution draft the reference to the 734 00:39:12,949 --> 00:39:18,949 outer space committee alone has its 735 00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:22,489 misgivings or is bad for us as it would 736 00:39:18,949 --> 00:39:24,980 incur Grenadiers desire to become a 737 00:39:22,489 --> 00:39:27,109 member of the outer space committee 738 00:39:24,980 --> 00:39:30,440 which would therefore be constantly 739 00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:35,480 occupied and dealing with the UFO 740 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:40,519 question so you see they actually they 741 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:42,469 were afraid that the subject would be a 742 00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:44,210 regular subject on the table of the 743 00:39:42,469 --> 00:39:46,549 outer space committee of the United 744 00:39:44,210 --> 00:39:47,960 Nations and they are also afraid that 745 00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:52,430 there are 746 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:55,400 implications you know what is going to 747 00:39:52,429 --> 00:39:57,739 happen if if we debate if we seriously 748 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,410 if we start to seriously debate about 749 00:39:57,739 --> 00:40:05,629 UFOs what would come out of that you 750 00:40:00,409 --> 00:40:11,210 know they were afraid of that and then I 751 00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:14,660 just my next quote the special that this 752 00:40:11,210 --> 00:40:17,210 is a telegram also from November 28 1978 753 00:40:14,659 --> 00:40:19,460 from Germany's permanent mission to the 754 00:40:17,210 --> 00:40:23,480 United Nations to the Federal Foreign 755 00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:25,309 Office in Bourne they say the SPC that 756 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,469 is the special political committee will 757 00:40:25,309 --> 00:40:31,630 finish debating this item until the end 758 00:40:27,469 --> 00:40:36,980 of this week until then the USA and 759 00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:39,320 Austria will try to persuade Grenada to 760 00:40:36,980 --> 00:40:42,349 withdraw their resolution draft to take 761 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:45,740 it back you know and to convince them of 762 00:40:42,349 --> 00:40:48,409 the of a general declaration which 763 00:40:45,739 --> 00:40:51,199 invites interested States to cooperate 764 00:40:48,409 --> 00:40:59,269 in a committee independent of the United 765 00:40:51,199 --> 00:41:03,679 Nations for the study of UFOs so so they 766 00:40:59,269 --> 00:41:08,119 let mr. Geary have his day as as it was 767 00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:10,009 said in in the British files talking 768 00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:12,500 about the United Nations resolution and 769 00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:16,370 they let him present the resolution 770 00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:18,289 draft and then afterwards they started a 771 00:41:16,369 --> 00:41:22,009 whispering campaign according to Nick 772 00:41:18,289 --> 00:41:24,710 Pope who used to be a Ministry of 773 00:41:22,010 --> 00:41:26,650 Defense official and Great Britain who I 774 00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:30,019 interviewed about this in order to 775 00:41:26,650 --> 00:41:33,110 convince Grenada to take this resolution 776 00:41:30,019 --> 00:41:35,329 back and then the result is the 777 00:41:33,110 --> 00:41:37,519 resolution I have just presented where 778 00:41:35,329 --> 00:41:41,630 the secretary-general only invites 779 00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:44,559 member states to you know coordinate you 780 00:41:41,630 --> 00:41:51,050 for research on a on a national level 781 00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:52,940 and in this in this letter from 782 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:57,830 Germany's permanent mission to the 783 00:41:52,940 --> 00:42:01,849 United Nations they go on to say last 784 00:41:57,829 --> 00:42:05,989 year and this was actually before the 785 00:42:01,849 --> 00:42:09,409 was from September 6 1978 this it says 786 00:42:05,989 --> 00:42:11,569 last year the other delegations had been 787 00:42:09,409 --> 00:42:15,920 in the awkward situation 788 00:42:11,570 --> 00:42:18,530 to decline granada's request in order to 789 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:22,610 avoid embarrassment for the United 790 00:42:18,530 --> 00:42:25,580 Nations concerning this item if grenada 791 00:42:22,610 --> 00:42:28,190 still does not understand that and it is 792 00:42:25,579 --> 00:42:29,960 because Grenada had actually presented a 793 00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:32,570 similar or had done a similar approach 794 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:35,329 the year before in 1977 795 00:42:32,570 --> 00:42:37,789 if Grenada still does not understand 796 00:42:35,329 --> 00:42:41,090 that and at least in part their action 797 00:42:37,789 --> 00:42:43,429 is aimed at gaining publicity their item 798 00:42:41,090 --> 00:42:46,070 will probably be treated with much less 799 00:42:43,429 --> 00:42:52,009 scrutiny at the 33rd General Assembly 800 00:42:46,070 --> 00:42:54,260 and will be procedurally killed I hope I 801 00:42:52,010 --> 00:42:58,640 translated that correctly into English 802 00:42:54,260 --> 00:43:01,970 killed by procedure and the killing is 803 00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:05,690 actually what they what this meant was 804 00:43:01,969 --> 00:43:07,579 that the general secretary walltime had 805 00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:10,780 already suggested the establishment of 806 00:43:07,579 --> 00:43:15,019 an ad hoc committee in which only 807 00:43:10,780 --> 00:43:17,870 voluntary delegations become active so I 808 00:43:15,019 --> 00:43:19,940 found that interesting and I also found 809 00:43:17,869 --> 00:43:23,420 interesting what I found very 810 00:43:19,940 --> 00:43:26,019 interesting is that a colleague of us at 811 00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:28,730 Paola Harris who is also part of the 812 00:43:26,019 --> 00:43:30,650 Exopolitics Institute she once wrote she 813 00:43:28,730 --> 00:43:33,679 one day she wrote me an email while 814 00:43:30,650 --> 00:43:35,690 while I was just you know researching 815 00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:38,980 all this and she and and she said hey 816 00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:42,920 Rob why don't you talk to Lee Spiegel I 817 00:43:38,980 --> 00:43:45,650 said Lee's beagle she said yeah Lee 818 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,630 Spiegel he's a famous journalist in in 819 00:43:45,650 --> 00:43:51,559 America he works for the Huffington Post 820 00:43:47,630 --> 00:43:54,619 now he used to host lots of radio shows 821 00:43:51,559 --> 00:44:00,880 for NBC and stuff but the most important 822 00:43:54,619 --> 00:44:05,539 fact about him is that actually back in 823 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:11,869 1978 he was part of the whole approach 824 00:44:05,539 --> 00:44:13,818 of Grenada to to establish a UFO 825 00:44:11,869 --> 00:44:16,460 department on 826 00:44:13,818 --> 00:44:18,440 in at the level of the United Nations he 827 00:44:16,460 --> 00:44:21,588 was the one who brought all those 828 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,210 experts together at that time so this is 829 00:44:21,588 --> 00:44:28,880 an astronaut here 830 00:44:23,210 --> 00:44:31,039 it's how was his name again Michael can 831 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,259 you help me what what Gordon Cooper 832 00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:35,720 exactly yeah that's Gordon Cooper he he 833 00:44:33,259 --> 00:44:38,539 was I think the Gemini mission 834 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:41,988 he was the first mercury mercury mission 835 00:44:38,539 --> 00:44:47,140 yeah and he and he had interesting UFO 836 00:44:41,989 --> 00:44:47,139 sightings himself being an astronaut 837 00:44:47,268 --> 00:44:52,008 he had Jacques Vallee who's a famous 838 00:44:49,518 --> 00:44:56,268 French astrophysicist this is Claude 839 00:44:52,009 --> 00:45:02,139 puer from France as well who used to 840 00:44:56,268 --> 00:45:04,879 lead the the French national UFO program 841 00:45:02,139 --> 00:45:10,190 and they had wellington friday and they 842 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:12,528 original plan was the was the 843 00:45:10,190 --> 00:45:14,630 establishment of that UN body and this 844 00:45:12,528 --> 00:45:17,028 is the press conference by the way this 845 00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:19,730 is this picture is not from November 27 846 00:45:17,028 --> 00:45:22,639 this from July but this one is this is 847 00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:25,699 the press conference you can see Stanton 848 00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:26,509 Friedman a very important UFO researcher 849 00:45:25,699 --> 00:45:32,449 worldwide 850 00:45:26,509 --> 00:45:35,179 this is J Allen Hynek who used to be the 851 00:45:32,449 --> 00:45:38,210 the chief investigator of the American 852 00:45:35,179 --> 00:45:40,219 air force to investigate UFOs he was 853 00:45:38,210 --> 00:45:42,710 also part of that initiative at the 854 00:45:40,219 --> 00:45:45,980 United Nations at that time and here you 855 00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:50,650 see Sir Eric gairy Prime Minister of 856 00:45:45,980 --> 00:45:53,869 Grenada and at his left side you see 857 00:45:50,650 --> 00:45:56,809 Wellington Friday who was the ambassador 858 00:45:53,869 --> 00:46:00,608 of Grenada and look who's this guy this 859 00:45:56,809 --> 00:46:03,829 is Lee Spiegel this is Lee Spiegel 860 00:46:00,608 --> 00:46:07,338 directly looking at Eric gairy 861 00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:09,349 and and he told me why is it that he 862 00:46:07,338 --> 00:46:11,748 looked directly at Eric gairy is because 863 00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:14,720 Eric gairy kept on talking all the time 864 00:46:11,748 --> 00:46:19,179 and he didn't let the other experts talk 865 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:22,429 but about Lots just let you explain 866 00:46:19,179 --> 00:46:24,379 let's let's show you leased vehicle who 867 00:46:22,429 --> 00:46:25,358 will explain you himself what they did 868 00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:28,239 at that time 869 00:46:25,358 --> 00:46:30,308 and this is just a short segment of an 870 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:36,489 interview I did with him just recently 871 00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:39,640 in July of 1978 we arranged to have a 872 00:46:36,489 --> 00:46:41,559 meeting during the summer at the United 873 00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:43,868 Nations with the Secretary General Kurt 874 00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:48,900 Waldheim and the purpose of that meeting 875 00:46:43,869 --> 00:46:51,249 was to let him know when our plan was in 876 00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:54,730 November when we were going to do the 877 00:46:51,248 --> 00:46:56,469 actual presentation and so he the 878 00:46:54,730 --> 00:46:57,608 secretary-general wanted to know well 879 00:46:56,469 --> 00:46:59,108 who's going to be there what's the 880 00:46:57,608 --> 00:47:02,048 purpose of it and I believe at that 881 00:46:59,108 --> 00:47:04,210 point is when Eric gairy actually 882 00:47:02,048 --> 00:47:06,159 presented the resolution to the 883 00:47:04,210 --> 00:47:07,809 secretary-general and said here is what 884 00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:09,848 we formally would like to do at the 885 00:47:07,809 --> 00:47:12,940 United Nations and here are some of the 886 00:47:09,849 --> 00:47:15,009 people today who are going to help us 887 00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:17,289 with with bringing it to the attention 888 00:47:15,009 --> 00:47:20,139 of the world body and there were several 889 00:47:17,289 --> 00:47:21,489 pictures taken of all of us sitting 890 00:47:20,139 --> 00:47:23,440 around that table with the 891 00:47:21,489 --> 00:47:25,960 secretary-general and at least one of 892 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,480 those pictures has become pretty famous 893 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,460 it's been published many times around 894 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:34,170 the world and books and magazines that 895 00:47:30,460 --> 00:47:38,769 show us there astronaut Gordon Cooper 896 00:47:34,170 --> 00:47:43,329 dr. J Allen Hynek dr. Jacques Vallee the 897 00:47:38,768 --> 00:47:47,229 secretary-general me and in that picture 898 00:47:43,329 --> 00:47:49,298 kind of let the public know that there 899 00:47:47,230 --> 00:47:51,909 was something coming up at the United 900 00:47:49,298 --> 00:47:55,599 Nations about UFOs all that we were 901 00:47:51,909 --> 00:47:59,170 trying to do was to to create a very 902 00:47:55,599 --> 00:48:01,150 small committee and like you said an ad 903 00:47:59,170 --> 00:48:04,440 hoc committee we were looking to get 904 00:48:01,150 --> 00:48:07,269 three people three representatives I 905 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:12,519 even was volunteering to be one of those 906 00:48:07,268 --> 00:48:15,429 people just a few people who would sit 907 00:48:12,518 --> 00:48:17,798 there in a little office maybe and start 908 00:48:15,429 --> 00:48:19,659 getting information from countries 909 00:48:17,798 --> 00:48:22,389 around the world who wanted to share 910 00:48:19,659 --> 00:48:24,788 information that that's all that we were 911 00:48:22,389 --> 00:48:26,739 doing that would not have cost a lot of 912 00:48:24,789 --> 00:48:28,720 money wouldn't have involved a lot of 913 00:48:26,739 --> 00:48:31,900 man-hours I'm sure that the United 914 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:34,509 Nations wastes a lot more money than we 915 00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:37,539 were asking them to supply for this kind 916 00:48:34,509 --> 00:48:38,920 of adventure no the bottom line was that 917 00:48:37,539 --> 00:48:40,839 the bigger 918 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:44,409 countries like the United States and the 919 00:48:40,838 --> 00:48:48,130 Soviet Union didn't want any attention 920 00:48:44,409 --> 00:48:51,279 put on to UFOs they had to stop it at 921 00:48:48,130 --> 00:48:53,588 all costs and and that's what happened 922 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,380 and so they basically embarrassed 923 00:48:53,588 --> 00:48:58,599 it wasn't Grenada who was embarrassed it 924 00:48:56,380 --> 00:49:02,789 was Great Britain it was maybe Germany 925 00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:05,890 who were embarrassed to the point or 926 00:49:02,789 --> 00:49:08,318 intimidated might be a better word they 927 00:49:05,889 --> 00:49:10,269 basically said you know you people 928 00:49:08,318 --> 00:49:12,159 should kind of get on board with the 929 00:49:10,269 --> 00:49:14,469 United States and the Soviet Union 930 00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:17,529 because if we don't want anything coming 931 00:49:14,469 --> 00:49:19,989 out about UFOs then you don't either you 932 00:49:17,530 --> 00:49:21,880 know pay attention to to our lead and 933 00:49:19,989 --> 00:49:23,979 everything will be fine 934 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:27,280 and I'm sure that those were the kind of 935 00:49:23,980 --> 00:49:29,230 discussions that happened that that's 936 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,839 the only thing that makes sense and like 937 00:49:29,230 --> 00:49:35,829 I said was it just a coincidence that 938 00:49:31,838 --> 00:49:39,759 sir Eric Gary's entire future political 939 00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:42,280 future went away when his his political 940 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,740 structure was overthrown just a few 941 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:49,290 months after our presentation at the 942 00:49:44,739 --> 00:49:51,699 United Nations boy tell us about you 943 00:49:49,289 --> 00:49:54,400 well that's that's just a question that 944 00:49:51,699 --> 00:49:56,529 I raised I can't prove that and I'm not 945 00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:02,588 even gonna try and prove it but it was a 946 00:49:56,530 --> 00:50:05,950 big coincidence I thought so you know 947 00:50:02,588 --> 00:50:08,949 the the prime minister of Grenada just 948 00:50:05,949 --> 00:50:11,980 to make this clear the Prime Minister of 949 00:50:08,949 --> 00:50:14,618 Grenada was overthrown by the opposition 950 00:50:11,980 --> 00:50:18,490 leader in his country only a couple of 951 00:50:14,619 --> 00:50:22,930 months later after the UFO presentation 952 00:50:18,489 --> 00:50:26,979 at the United Nations and and I think he 953 00:50:22,929 --> 00:50:30,368 was a political refugee then in the in 954 00:50:26,980 --> 00:50:33,059 in the United States and as dr. Selar 955 00:50:30,369 --> 00:50:34,930 told me last night he was taken into 956 00:50:33,059 --> 00:50:38,230 custody 957 00:50:34,929 --> 00:50:43,358 security custody for you know for being 958 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:47,500 and for being a prime minister who who 959 00:50:43,358 --> 00:50:50,848 had just lost his his office now yeah 960 00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:57,239 that is a strange coincidence I must say 961 00:50:50,849 --> 00:51:00,280 and as you see that the subject of UFOs 962 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:02,979 seems to be a subject that is pretty 963 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,990 delicate you know you can easily lose 964 00:51:02,980 --> 00:51:10,119 your job if you start talking about it 965 00:51:04,989 --> 00:51:13,559 as a politician nevertheless I have to 966 00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:16,960 say that it is it's an international 967 00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:19,389 it's debated internationally worldwide 968 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,960 and countries all over the world have 969 00:51:19,389 --> 00:51:27,339 been investigating UFOs this is just the 970 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:31,650 list of countries that I have researched 971 00:51:27,340 --> 00:51:36,369 who did who have been doing UFO research 972 00:51:31,650 --> 00:51:42,400 19 countries worldwide have government 973 00:51:36,369 --> 00:51:46,030 files about UFOs military files 974 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:51,220 government files some of some of which 975 00:51:46,030 --> 00:51:54,700 are official some are unofficial some in 976 00:51:51,219 --> 00:51:56,939 some some countries have civil 977 00:51:54,699 --> 00:52:01,809 authorities that deal with the subject 978 00:51:56,940 --> 00:52:05,679 others have military authorities so just 979 00:52:01,809 --> 00:52:08,500 to give you an idea about the vast 980 00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:11,469 number of countries where the UFO 981 00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:13,838 subject is taken so seriously that they 982 00:52:11,469 --> 00:52:14,169 have government authorities dealing with 983 00:52:13,838 --> 00:52:19,358 it 984 00:52:14,170 --> 00:52:21,460 so you see blue countries here and gray 985 00:52:19,358 --> 00:52:24,009 countries and then yet there are two 986 00:52:21,460 --> 00:52:24,490 underlined countries Shelagh Ecuador and 987 00:52:24,010 --> 00:52:27,730 France 988 00:52:24,489 --> 00:52:31,868 oh it's three so the blue countries on 989 00:52:27,730 --> 00:52:34,800 our NATO allies as you see the the 990 00:52:31,869 --> 00:52:38,740 subject of UFOs is being debated in NATO 991 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:42,369 allied countries just as seriously as in 992 00:52:38,739 --> 00:52:44,559 non allied countries and you see in 993 00:52:42,369 --> 00:52:47,410 France and China and Ecuador there are 994 00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:50,710 civil authorities concerned with this 995 00:52:47,409 --> 00:52:52,509 with the UFO subject and it is from 996 00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:57,099 those countries that we know that we 997 00:52:52,510 --> 00:53:00,040 have some scientific data about UFO 998 00:52:57,099 --> 00:53:03,030 occurrences let's take for example the 999 00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:03,029 French 1000 00:53:04,510 --> 00:53:11,569 the French have a UFO study group which 1001 00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:14,900 is an official department of their 1002 00:53:11,568 --> 00:53:18,969 friend of their Space Agency it's called 1003 00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:23,809 knez Santa nationality to its pastula 1004 00:53:18,969 --> 00:53:26,449 Center for Space Studies and it's the 1005 00:53:23,809 --> 00:53:29,449 part it's like NASA in in in France okay 1006 00:53:26,449 --> 00:53:31,848 and it's Department it's it's the Japan 1007 00:53:29,449 --> 00:53:33,348 Gupta to do it and form as yours your 1008 00:53:31,849 --> 00:53:36,019 life and oh man I always pass you know 1009 00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:37,818 Leontief year so it's to study and 1010 00:53:36,019 --> 00:53:40,250 information group of an unidentified 1011 00:53:37,818 --> 00:53:43,250 aerial phenomena that is how they call 1012 00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:46,579 the UFO phenomenon unidentified aerial 1013 00:53:43,250 --> 00:53:49,280 phenomena so this is official UFO 1014 00:53:46,579 --> 00:53:50,810 information from France okay you can 1015 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,420 find it on this website the official 1016 00:53:50,809 --> 00:53:56,078 website of the French National Space 1017 00:53:53,420 --> 00:53:58,940 Agency maybe you want to write that down 1018 00:53:56,079 --> 00:54:01,010 some Kaunas united space yeah later and 1019 00:53:58,940 --> 00:54:03,470 you can see how many cases they have 1020 00:54:01,010 --> 00:54:05,810 investigated here and this is a very 1021 00:54:03,469 --> 00:54:10,939 interesting chart because it shows you 1022 00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:14,328 that they differentiate between four 1023 00:54:10,940 --> 00:54:17,539 types of unidentified phenomena cat 1024 00:54:14,329 --> 00:54:21,579 category a are the phenomena which can 1025 00:54:17,539 --> 00:54:27,259 be perfectly identified it's 11 percent 1026 00:54:21,579 --> 00:54:29,690 category B is phenomen phenomenon which 1027 00:54:27,260 --> 00:54:32,420 are probably identified so that means 1028 00:54:29,690 --> 00:54:34,369 that if somebody sees something in the 1029 00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:37,970 sky and it moves in a certain direction 1030 00:54:34,369 --> 00:54:40,190 and they and they make a UFO report then 1031 00:54:37,969 --> 00:54:42,409 they will the first thing they will do 1032 00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:45,079 is they will take out their star map and 1033 00:54:42,409 --> 00:54:47,690 see if it's Venus or so or if it's the 1034 00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:49,460 International Space Station and if they 1035 00:54:47,690 --> 00:54:51,318 find that the International Space 1036 00:54:49,460 --> 00:54:53,869 Station on that very day at that very 1037 00:54:51,318 --> 00:54:57,949 time at very same time it's taking the 1038 00:54:53,869 --> 00:55:00,769 same course then it is most probably the 1039 00:54:57,949 --> 00:55:06,759 International Space Station and then 1040 00:55:00,769 --> 00:55:10,369 category C is an identifiable phenomena 1041 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:12,020 that means that they cannot identify the 1042 00:55:10,369 --> 00:55:15,670 phenomena because they do not have 1043 00:55:12,019 --> 00:55:18,159 sufficient information on it 1044 00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:23,380 but then there is still a category D of 1045 00:55:18,159 --> 00:55:26,829 30 of of 22% of of real unidentified 1046 00:55:23,380 --> 00:55:31,240 aerial phenomena and that means that 1047 00:55:26,829 --> 00:55:34,119 those 22% they are not there they're not 1048 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:36,789 not identified because they didn't have 1049 00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:39,150 the data but because they did have all 1050 00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:44,199 the data and they couldn't identify it 1051 00:55:39,150 --> 00:55:49,329 anyway and there are landings cases of 1052 00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:55,239 landings physical interaction between a 1053 00:55:49,329 --> 00:55:58,509 craft environment beings were seen you 1054 00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:01,209 know even by the Jean de ma vie but by 1055 00:55:58,510 --> 00:56:03,160 the police the French police and what's 1056 00:56:01,210 --> 00:56:05,470 also interesting and and you know I 1057 00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:09,429 really love the French for having 1058 00:56:05,469 --> 00:56:12,969 published this report and this should 1059 00:56:09,429 --> 00:56:16,719 make you if you're a skeptic I guess 1060 00:56:12,969 --> 00:56:22,259 there are only some few skeptics in this 1061 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:25,209 room so I think it doesn't you know I 1062 00:56:22,260 --> 00:56:26,710 doesn't doesn't serve me anything if I 1063 00:56:25,210 --> 00:56:31,900 asked you to raise your hand if you're a 1064 00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:34,420 skeptic but anyway if you're a skeptic 1065 00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:36,910 you should get that study because it's a 1066 00:56:34,420 --> 00:56:40,539 three-year military study from 1067 00:56:36,909 --> 00:56:42,699 high-ranking French officials who worked 1068 00:56:40,539 --> 00:57:09,429 in the surroundings in the environment 1069 00:56:42,699 --> 00:57:11,588 of the French and here's 1070 00:57:09,429 --> 00:57:14,818 oh by the way most important thing about 1071 00:57:11,588 --> 00:57:18,849 the report is its title the title is 1072 00:57:14,818 --> 00:57:24,460 UFOs and defends what should we prepare 1073 00:57:18,849 --> 00:57:29,740 for UFOs and defense 1074 00:57:24,460 --> 00:57:32,260 what should we prepare for and this is 1075 00:57:29,739 --> 00:57:34,779 as I said a three-year military study by 1076 00:57:32,260 --> 00:57:37,900 high-ranking French officials so let me 1077 00:57:34,780 --> 00:57:39,970 just quote from a part of their part of 1078 00:57:37,900 --> 00:57:44,440 their conclusions about the UFO 1079 00:57:39,969 --> 00:57:47,199 phenomenon this is in French but I read 1080 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:49,329 it in English I'm sorry you know maybe 1081 00:57:47,199 --> 00:57:52,149 not the best idea for a German to 1082 00:57:49,329 --> 00:57:57,550 translate a French text into English but 1083 00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:57,940 I had no choice so I try I'll try my 1084 00:57:57,550 --> 00:58:01,089 best 1085 00:57:57,940 --> 00:58:03,460 the studies show physically documented 1086 00:58:01,088 --> 00:58:07,088 evidence for the reality of absolutely 1087 00:58:03,460 --> 00:58:11,079 unknown flying objects with remarkable 1088 00:58:07,088 --> 00:58:13,389 flight and sound characteristics that 1089 00:58:11,079 --> 00:58:18,010 are apparently driven by intelligent 1090 00:58:13,389 --> 00:58:20,348 beings these flying objects are very 1091 00:58:18,010 --> 00:58:24,780 impressing for both military and civil 1092 00:58:20,349 --> 00:58:29,318 pilots who are reluctant to speak out 1093 00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:33,990 their fear of being ridiculed etc is the 1094 00:58:29,318 --> 00:58:33,989 reason for them to remain silent 1095 00:58:34,949 --> 00:58:42,699 secret craft of terrestrial origin like 1096 00:58:38,139 --> 00:58:49,929 drones etc can only explain a minor part 1097 00:58:42,699 --> 00:58:53,409 of the cases one can clearly perceive 1098 00:58:49,929 --> 00:58:55,868 the limits of this explanation going 1099 00:58:53,409 --> 00:59:00,190 back in time going sufficiently back in 1100 00:58:55,869 --> 00:59:04,119 time and then they go on to state there 1101 00:59:00,190 --> 00:59:08,260 is only one hypothesis that sufficiently 1102 00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:14,500 takes into account the facts and relies 1103 00:59:08,260 --> 00:59:17,530 essentially on today's science it is the 1104 00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:20,119 hypothesis of extraterrestrial visitors 1105 00:59:17,530 --> 00:59:25,490 there you see it 1106 00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:28,650 see cell Divisie turf extra terraced and 1107 00:59:25,489 --> 00:59:31,469 they go on to state the 1108 00:59:28,650 --> 00:59:34,710 extra-terrestrial hypothesis is by far 1109 00:59:31,469 --> 00:59:37,889 the best scientific hypothesis of course 1110 00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:40,650 is it is it is not categorically proven 1111 00:59:37,889 --> 00:59:43,619 but there are strong indications for it 1112 00:59:40,650 --> 00:59:48,050 to be real and if it is correct there 1113 00:59:43,619 --> 00:59:54,109 are a lot of Contents consequences and 1114 00:59:48,050 --> 00:59:57,450 and I think this study should be 1115 00:59:54,110 --> 00:59:59,460 compulsory for all the skeptics who keep 1116 00:59:57,449 --> 01:00:02,489 on claiming that there is nothing to the 1117 00:59:59,460 --> 01:00:05,309 UFO phenomenon because I must I must 1118 01:00:02,489 --> 01:00:08,279 ask questions how many people who are 1119 01:00:05,309 --> 01:00:14,099 skeptics and I'm Venice a skeptics 1120 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:16,590 I mean ideological skeptics because I am 1121 01:00:14,099 --> 01:00:18,449 skeptical myself I am you know I'm 1122 01:00:16,590 --> 01:00:23,190 critical I do not believe each and 1123 01:00:18,449 --> 01:00:24,960 everything I hear but but there are 1124 01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:27,690 people out there and for them it's a 1125 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:31,559 it's an ideologue ideology especially in 1126 01:00:27,690 --> 01:00:33,960 Germany and they don't they don't want 1127 01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:37,170 it to be true because it just cannot be 1128 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:39,389 you know but I have to ask the question 1129 01:00:37,170 --> 01:00:43,260 how many of those people have their own 1130 01:00:39,389 --> 01:00:46,409 radar device on the roof of their house 1131 01:00:43,260 --> 01:00:49,710 you know how many of them have onboard 1132 01:00:46,409 --> 01:00:53,699 radars how many of them are trained 1133 01:00:49,710 --> 01:00:57,449 observers how many of them know what is 1134 01:00:53,699 --> 01:01:02,519 going on in aviation that's the kind of 1135 01:00:57,449 --> 01:01:06,719 people who wrote this report so you see 1136 01:01:02,519 --> 01:01:08,880 the the UFO phenomenon it's not that it 1137 01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:10,319 will have some implications if we 1138 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,710 thought if we start talking about it but 1139 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:18,150 it already had implications let me show 1140 01:01:13,710 --> 01:01:21,869 you the testimony of the former chief of 1141 01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:25,410 the air staff of the of the Belgium Air 1142 01:01:21,869 --> 01:01:29,089 Force who talks about the Belgian UFO 1143 01:01:25,409 --> 01:01:33,000 wave there was a wave of UFO sightings 1144 01:01:29,090 --> 01:01:33,750 triangular objects like this one now 1145 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,489 recently the 1146 01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:39,539 has been some debate of whether or not 1147 01:01:35,489 --> 01:01:41,669 this this photo is real but it doesn't 1148 01:01:39,539 --> 01:01:43,440 really matter because this photo was 1149 01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:46,710 taken at the very end of the belt in 1150 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:49,320 view of a wave and the witness is always 1151 01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:56,699 described it the same so let me show you 1152 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:59,370 what he said about it ladies and 1153 01:01:56,699 --> 01:02:00,989 gentlemen good morning my name is 1154 01:01:59,369 --> 01:02:03,599 Wilfred de Brouwer 1155 01:02:00,989 --> 01:02:05,759 I'm a retired Major General of the 1156 01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:09,659 Belgian Air Force and I was chief 1157 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:12,360 operations in the air staff at a time 1158 01:02:09,659 --> 01:02:16,409 that an exceptional UFO wave took place 1159 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:21,360 over Belgium indeed during the evening 1160 01:02:16,409 --> 01:02:26,519 of 29 November 1989 in a small area in 1161 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:29,300 eastern Belgium approximately 140 UFO 1162 01:02:26,519 --> 01:02:32,340 sightings were reported 1163 01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:35,130 hundreds of people saw a majestic 1164 01:02:32,340 --> 01:02:39,120 triangular craft with a span of 1165 01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:42,750 approximately 120 feet powerful beaming 1166 01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:46,019 spotlights moving very slowly without 1167 01:02:42,750 --> 01:02:48,960 making any significant noise but in 1168 01:02:46,019 --> 01:02:52,710 several cases accelerating to very high 1169 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:57,269 speeds the following days and months 1170 01:02:52,710 --> 01:03:00,960 many more sightings would follow the UFO 1171 01:02:57,269 --> 01:03:03,780 wave would last more than a year during 1172 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:08,789 which a Belgian UFO organisation 1173 01:03:03,780 --> 01:03:12,420 conducted more than 650 investigations 1174 01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:17,210 and recorded more than 400 hours of 1175 01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:19,980 audio witness reports on one occasion a 1176 01:03:17,210 --> 01:03:23,550 photograph revealed the triangular shape 1177 01:03:19,980 --> 01:03:25,469 and four light beams of the object I 1178 01:03:23,550 --> 01:03:27,810 have the photograph here if you want to 1179 01:03:25,469 --> 01:03:31,169 see more details later on but at the 1180 01:03:27,809 --> 01:03:34,349 left at your left you see the original 1181 01:03:31,170 --> 01:03:37,320 photograph at the right you can see an 1182 01:03:34,349 --> 01:03:42,210 overexposed photograph which reveals the 1183 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:44,850 shape of the craft Belgium had no 1184 01:03:42,210 --> 01:03:45,990 official focal point for reporting UFO 1185 01:03:44,849 --> 01:03:49,389 sightings 1186 01:03:45,989 --> 01:03:51,639 nevertheless and my function of chief 1187 01:03:49,389 --> 01:03:54,219 operations I was confronted with 1188 01:03:51,639 --> 01:03:58,539 numerous questions about the origin and 1189 01:03:54,219 --> 01:04:00,609 nature of these scarves in first 1190 01:03:58,539 --> 01:04:03,699 instance and in consultation with other 1191 01:04:00,610 --> 01:04:07,260 NATO partners I could confirm that no 1192 01:04:03,699 --> 01:04:10,269 flights of stealth aircraft or any other 1193 01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:13,930 experimental aircraft took place in the 1194 01:04:10,269 --> 01:04:15,849 airspace of Belgium in addition the 1195 01:04:13,929 --> 01:04:19,619 civil aviation authorities confirmed 1196 01:04:15,849 --> 01:04:23,769 that no flight plans had been introduced 1197 01:04:19,619 --> 01:04:26,799 this implied that reported objects or 1198 01:04:23,769 --> 01:04:30,699 craft committed an infection against the 1199 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:34,060 existing aviation rules the Belgian Air 1200 01:04:30,699 --> 01:04:36,969 Force tried to identify the alleged 1201 01:04:34,059 --> 01:04:42,159 intruders and on three occasions 1202 01:04:36,969 --> 01:04:44,230 launched f16 aircraft on one occasion to 1203 01:04:42,159 --> 01:04:46,889 have 16 registered rapid changes in 1204 01:04:44,230 --> 01:04:50,760 speed and altitude which were well 1205 01:04:46,889 --> 01:04:54,879 outside of the performance envelope of 1206 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:57,730 existing aircraft nevertheless the virus 1207 01:04:54,880 --> 01:05:00,400 could not establish visual context and 1208 01:04:57,730 --> 01:05:03,150 the investigation revealed that specific 1209 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:05,590 weather conditions may have caused 1210 01:05:03,150 --> 01:05:09,869 electromagnetic interferences and false 1211 01:05:05,590 --> 01:05:13,120 radar returns the technical evidence was 1212 01:05:09,869 --> 01:05:15,609 insufficient to conclude that abnormal 1213 01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:19,539 earth activities took place during that 1214 01:05:15,610 --> 01:05:22,059 evening in short the Belgian UFO wave 1215 01:05:19,539 --> 01:05:25,690 was exceptional and the Air Force could 1216 01:05:22,059 --> 01:05:28,059 not identify the nature origin and 1217 01:05:25,690 --> 01:05:31,110 intentions of the reported phenomenon 1218 01:05:28,059 --> 01:05:31,110 thank you very much 1219 01:05:34,798 --> 01:05:42,608 so just imagine the chief of staff of 1220 01:05:38,978 --> 01:05:44,788 the Belgian Air Force States publicly 1221 01:05:42,608 --> 01:05:49,150 states that the Air Force was unable to 1222 01:05:44,789 --> 01:05:54,269 identify to identify the the the 1223 01:05:49,150 --> 01:05:57,519 intention and origin of this phenomenon 1224 01:05:54,268 --> 01:06:03,518 what does it mean why does he talk about 1225 01:05:57,518 --> 01:06:05,439 intentions I will jump over a certain 1226 01:06:03,518 --> 01:06:09,988 part in my presentation now because I 1227 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,989 know that is we are behind the schedule 1228 01:06:16,650 --> 01:06:24,309 so what is going on if you ask the 1229 01:06:21,458 --> 01:06:27,489 United States Air Force there's nothing 1230 01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:30,400 going on at all this is the official 1231 01:06:27,489 --> 01:06:32,650 United States position on UFOs it's 1232 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:36,309 considered the u.s. the official u.s. 1233 01:06:32,650 --> 01:06:38,798 position on UFOs no UFO reported 1234 01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:41,499 investigated or evaluated by the Air 1235 01:06:38,798 --> 01:06:45,788 Force was ever an indication of threat 1236 01:06:41,498 --> 01:06:49,478 to our national security there was no 1237 01:06:45,789 --> 01:06:53,289 evidence submitted to or discovered by 1238 01:06:49,478 --> 01:06:56,588 the Air Force that unidentified 1239 01:06:53,289 --> 01:06:59,440 sightings represented technological 1240 01:06:56,588 --> 01:07:04,318 developments or principles beyond the 1241 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:07,028 range of modern scientific knowledge and 1242 01:07:04,318 --> 01:07:10,119 since termination of Project Blue Book 1243 01:07:07,028 --> 01:07:13,329 nothing has occurred that would support 1244 01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:15,190 a resumption of UFO investigations by 1245 01:07:13,329 --> 01:07:17,219 the Air Force now let's analyze what 1246 01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:20,139 they are saying here they are saying 1247 01:07:17,219 --> 01:07:23,708 whatever they have investigated it has 1248 01:07:20,139 --> 01:07:26,739 never shown any indication of a threat 1249 01:07:23,708 --> 01:07:30,518 to the national security and what they 1250 01:07:26,739 --> 01:07:33,699 have what they have analyzed never 1251 01:07:30,518 --> 01:07:37,328 represented technological developments 1252 01:07:33,699 --> 01:07:43,209 or principles beyond our current 1253 01:07:37,329 --> 01:07:45,880 scientific knowledge maybe you know 1254 01:07:43,208 --> 01:07:47,199 maybe the Americans maybe they should 1255 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:50,730 have 1256 01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:56,649 the Swiss people from Switzerland look 1257 01:07:50,730 --> 01:08:02,219 look at this this is a radar trace of a 1258 01:07:56,650 --> 01:08:09,240 UFO on Swiss military radar from June 18 1259 01:08:02,219 --> 01:08:10,389 1993 I got this from a scientist 1260 01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:13,509 astrophysicists 1261 01:08:10,389 --> 01:08:16,389 and a head of a German UFO organization 1262 01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:19,180 MUFON which also exists in in Europe 1263 01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:21,910 MUFON Central European section and the 1264 01:08:19,180 --> 01:08:23,710 head of that organization and I we work 1265 01:08:21,909 --> 01:08:27,220 closely together and he gave me this 1266 01:08:23,710 --> 01:08:29,380 radar trace of Swiss military of a UFO 1267 01:08:27,220 --> 01:08:33,430 and Swiss military radar now what's so 1268 01:08:29,380 --> 01:08:38,949 interesting about this is that you know 1269 01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:40,960 on June 18 1993 the radar operators were 1270 01:08:38,949 --> 01:08:43,269 trying were sitting there in their in 1271 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:46,090 their control tower and they were trying 1272 01:08:43,270 --> 01:08:51,040 to identify this object which was 1273 01:08:46,090 --> 01:08:53,409 traveling with you know with 240 km/h so 1274 01:08:51,039 --> 01:08:55,930 which is not very fast you know and they 1275 01:08:53,409 --> 01:08:58,599 try to identify this you of this this 1276 01:08:55,930 --> 01:09:02,409 this object because it did not have a 1277 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:06,220 transponder signature transponder 1278 01:09:02,409 --> 01:09:09,279 signature means that each plane has a 1279 01:09:06,220 --> 01:09:13,060 sender you know and it's emits radio 1280 01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:15,509 waves so that you can identify the plane 1281 01:09:13,060 --> 01:09:18,190 so that everybody knows this is plane 1282 01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:19,659 Lufthansa hahaha going there and there 1283 01:09:18,189 --> 01:09:22,539 and this object didn't have anything so 1284 01:09:19,659 --> 01:09:25,389 while they were investigating where they 1285 01:09:22,539 --> 01:09:31,689 were trying to find out what this object 1286 01:09:25,390 --> 01:09:35,130 is it suddenly accelerates to Mach 4 so 1287 01:09:31,689 --> 01:09:39,309 that's four times the speed of sound and 1288 01:09:35,130 --> 01:09:42,819 and it makes a sharp angle a sharp angle 1289 01:09:39,310 --> 01:09:46,690 at at Mach 4 and disappears from the 1290 01:09:42,819 --> 01:09:48,699 radar screen and it and it doesn't it 1291 01:09:46,689 --> 01:09:50,559 didn't disappear from the radar screen 1292 01:09:48,699 --> 01:09:53,050 because it really disappeared but 1293 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:55,420 because the Swiss military radar was not 1294 01:09:53,050 --> 01:09:58,600 able to capture any objects that were 1295 01:09:55,420 --> 01:09:59,619 faster than Mach 4 at that time why 1296 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,470 would they 1297 01:09:59,619 --> 01:10:05,550 there are no terrestrial objects that 1298 01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:11,500 can fly Mac for at least not officially 1299 01:10:05,550 --> 01:10:15,039 now what's interesting is the sharp 1300 01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:18,689 angle how can you make a sharp angle at 1301 01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:22,149 Mach 4 at four times the speed of sound 1302 01:10:18,689 --> 01:10:24,189 we have natural laws there is one 1303 01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:28,719 natural law which is I think that mass 1304 01:10:24,189 --> 01:10:31,089 inertia law mass inertia law mass 1305 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:34,840 inertia means that once you set a 1306 01:10:31,090 --> 01:10:37,239 certain mass in motion into a certain 1307 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:40,750 direction you will need a lot of energy 1308 01:10:37,239 --> 01:10:44,260 to to divert it from its original course 1309 01:10:40,750 --> 01:10:49,420 and it will cause damage to that object 1310 01:10:44,260 --> 01:10:52,150 I mean otherwise said if you go 80 km/h 1311 01:10:49,420 --> 01:10:56,619 and then you grab your steering wheel 1312 01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:58,269 and you just go what's gonna happen do 1313 01:10:56,619 --> 01:11:02,710 you think you will drive a sharp angle 1314 01:10:58,270 --> 01:11:06,760 on your motorway you will not your car 1315 01:11:02,710 --> 01:11:10,739 will crash you will possibly die so you 1316 01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:17,199 shouldn't try this unless you are a UFO 1317 01:11:10,739 --> 01:11:20,500 so so you see this object this radar 1318 01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:23,409 trace is a direct contradiction to the 1319 01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:26,039 official United States position on UFOs 1320 01:11:23,409 --> 01:11:29,260 that they do not represent any 1321 01:11:26,039 --> 01:11:31,479 technological developments or principles 1322 01:11:29,260 --> 01:11:34,750 beyond the range of modern scientific 1323 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:41,979 knowledge because these objects do not 1324 01:11:34,750 --> 01:11:47,130 only not accept our aviation laws they 1325 01:11:41,979 --> 01:11:47,129 do not also not accept our natural laws 1326 01:11:49,050 --> 01:11:57,880 there you see another radar trace it 1327 01:11:54,640 --> 01:12:00,880 shows this is the this it's a flight 1328 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:03,760 level profile okay so it shows this is 1329 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:06,460 the flight path from ABBA seen from 1330 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:11,280 above but this is the flight level okay 1331 01:12:06,460 --> 01:12:15,930 so here you can see that on June 13 1993 1332 01:12:11,279 --> 01:12:18,689 this object showed extreme changes in 1333 01:12:15,930 --> 01:12:25,829 its flight level it changed its flight 1334 01:12:18,689 --> 01:12:30,389 level in several thousand meters higher 1335 01:12:25,829 --> 01:12:33,000 or lower within six minutes if you ask a 1336 01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:35,869 pilot I don't know do we have a pilot 1337 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,869 here in the audience 1338 01:12:36,770 --> 01:12:41,580 no pilot okay 1339 01:12:39,449 --> 01:12:44,609 because I have I have a pilot in my team 1340 01:12:41,579 --> 01:12:47,369 and I asked him in my Exopolitics team 1341 01:12:44,609 --> 01:12:50,099 in Germany and I asked him which kind of 1342 01:12:47,369 --> 01:12:52,470 craft would would be capable of flying 1343 01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:54,510 this and you said it's impossible you 1344 01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:57,360 can you cannot have cannot be a 1345 01:12:54,510 --> 01:13:01,880 helicopter can be nothing not this is 1346 01:12:57,359 --> 01:13:05,009 just completely unknown and unthinkable 1347 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:07,050 and there's another thing about radar 1348 01:13:05,010 --> 01:13:09,800 traces once we talk about radar traces 1349 01:13:07,050 --> 01:13:13,170 you know is that you of those are 1350 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:16,560 interestingly enough they are they are 1351 01:13:13,170 --> 01:13:21,050 obviously interested in in terrestrial 1352 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:27,780 military installations you see it here 1353 01:13:21,050 --> 01:13:31,050 on May 5 1996 the the square that you 1354 01:13:27,779 --> 01:13:34,769 see in in in in red this is the no-fly 1355 01:13:31,050 --> 01:13:36,900 zone around a night and NATO stationed 1356 01:13:34,770 --> 01:13:38,550 military stationed there should be no 1357 01:13:36,899 --> 01:13:41,369 nothing whatsoever 1358 01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:49,440 within that no-fly zone and you still 1359 01:13:41,369 --> 01:13:53,939 have unidentified radar returns and this 1360 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:56,460 is this is a common thing there is one 1361 01:13:53,939 --> 01:13:59,489 last witness testimony that I want to 1362 01:13:56,460 --> 01:14:02,310 show you before I leave you because I I 1363 01:13:59,489 --> 01:14:08,969 see my my egg timer has already run up 1364 01:14:02,310 --> 01:14:11,370 and as I said UFOs are interested in in 1365 01:14:08,970 --> 01:14:14,090 terrestrial military installations and 1366 01:14:11,369 --> 01:14:17,250 that is something that we should be 1367 01:14:14,090 --> 01:14:20,310 concerned about what does it mean let me 1368 01:14:17,250 --> 01:14:22,470 show you the witness testimony of a 1369 01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:25,410 former Air Force captain 1370 01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:29,280 he was stationed in March in March 16 1371 01:14:25,409 --> 01:14:35,789 1967 he was stationed at Mastro's Air 1372 01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:37,949 Force Base Montana he was he was 1373 01:14:35,789 --> 01:14:41,369 responsible for nuclear weapons that 1374 01:14:37,949 --> 01:14:46,439 were stationed there because it was the 1375 01:14:41,369 --> 01:14:49,649 Cold War you know Cold War so it's very 1376 01:14:46,439 --> 01:15:04,049 important military installation and look 1377 01:14:49,649 --> 01:15:06,179 what happened by the way this is an 1378 01:15:04,050 --> 01:15:09,390 excerpt from a press conference by those 1379 01:15:06,180 --> 01:15:12,090 high-ranking military officials which we 1380 01:15:09,390 --> 01:15:15,000 were given permission to publish and we 1381 01:15:12,090 --> 01:15:19,789 seize these opportunities Robert Salas 1382 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:21,689 in 1967 I was a first lieutenant 1383 01:15:19,789 --> 01:15:26,119 stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base 1384 01:15:21,689 --> 01:15:32,819 Montana I was a missile launch officer 1385 01:15:26,119 --> 01:15:35,939 and in march on march 24th 1967 i was on 1386 01:15:32,819 --> 01:15:42,559 duty at what we called oscar flight 1387 01:15:35,939 --> 01:15:46,379 it is a underground capsule 1388 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:49,770 Harden's site about 60 feet underground 1389 01:15:46,380 --> 01:15:51,270 we had security guards topside the main 1390 01:15:49,770 --> 01:15:56,810 guard is called a flight security 1391 01:15:51,270 --> 01:16:00,960 controller my commander at the time was 1392 01:15:56,810 --> 01:16:06,810 lieutenant Fred Maiwald now colonel 1393 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:08,909 retired colonel Fred my wall sometime in 1394 01:16:06,810 --> 01:16:11,880 the evening hours on March 24th 1395 01:16:08,909 --> 01:16:14,029 I received a call from one of my topside 1396 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,869 guards the white security controller 1397 01:16:14,029 --> 01:16:18,090 stating that they had been observing 1398 01:16:15,869 --> 01:16:22,529 strange lights in the sky making odd 1399 01:16:18,090 --> 01:16:24,600 maneuvers and wanted to report it I 1400 01:16:22,529 --> 01:16:28,679 thought it was kind of strange report 1401 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:30,030 but I took it seriously you have to 1402 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:33,570 understand we were protecting nuclear 1403 01:16:30,029 --> 01:16:36,009 weapons and we reports we generally got 1404 01:16:33,569 --> 01:16:39,009 were very professional 1405 01:16:36,010 --> 01:16:41,730 at any rate I kind of dismissed the call 1406 01:16:39,010 --> 01:16:43,869 he called back about five minutes later 1407 01:16:41,729 --> 01:16:47,799 this time he was screaming into the 1408 01:16:43,869 --> 01:16:51,849 phone saying they're looking at an 1409 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:55,600 object a red glowing object hovering 1410 01:16:51,850 --> 01:16:59,230 just above our front gate this object 1411 01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:00,789 was about 30 feet in diameter he 1412 01:16:59,229 --> 01:17:03,909 couldn't make out too much the details 1413 01:17:00,789 --> 01:17:08,170 of the object only that it was pulsating 1414 01:17:03,909 --> 01:17:11,619 and and he had all the guards out there 1415 01:17:08,170 --> 01:17:14,440 he was very frightened wanted me to give 1416 01:17:11,619 --> 01:17:16,809 him direction I think I said something 1417 01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:19,559 like make sure nothing comes inside the 1418 01:17:16,810 --> 01:17:23,220 perimeter fence 1419 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:26,260 he immediately hung the phone up we I 1420 01:17:23,220 --> 01:17:30,250 went to wake my commander Fred Maiwald 1421 01:17:26,260 --> 01:17:33,220 who was taking a rest break started to 1422 01:17:30,250 --> 01:17:36,729 tell him about the phone call and just 1423 01:17:33,220 --> 01:17:38,850 as I told him our missiles began going 1424 01:17:36,729 --> 01:17:41,589 into what's called a no-go condition or 1425 01:17:38,850 --> 01:17:44,350 unlaunchable essentially they were 1426 01:17:41,590 --> 01:17:47,289 disabled when this object was still 1427 01:17:44,350 --> 01:17:52,500 hovering over our site our launch 1428 01:17:47,289 --> 01:17:52,500 control facility I'll interrupt here 1429 01:17:53,069 --> 01:17:58,750 just to sum it up what he just said he 1430 01:17:56,890 --> 01:18:00,880 said that he was informed by his 1431 01:17:58,750 --> 01:18:03,789 security guards that there was an object 1432 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:06,699 that hovered over the launch control the 1433 01:18:03,789 --> 01:18:08,319 launch site of these nuclear missiles 1434 01:18:06,699 --> 01:18:11,170 and the and 1435 01:18:08,319 --> 01:18:13,569 the the nuclear missiles that were there 1436 01:18:11,170 --> 01:18:16,750 to protect the United States of the evil 1437 01:18:13,569 --> 01:18:20,920 Soviets or or check missiles how Eastern 1438 01:18:16,750 --> 01:18:24,279 German missiles they were they were 1439 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:27,300 suddenly shut off they did shut down 1440 01:18:24,279 --> 01:18:30,849 while the object was hovering there so 1441 01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:34,560 this this case has also been subject to 1442 01:18:30,850 --> 01:18:39,100 a certain investigation by the Air Force 1443 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:41,560 and here in this document which is a 1444 01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:43,060 document that Robert Salas received with 1445 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:46,700 the Freedom of Information Act in 1446 01:18:43,060 --> 01:18:49,400 America it states it states the 1447 01:18:46,699 --> 01:18:52,309 fact that no apparent reason for the 1448 01:18:49,399 --> 01:18:57,079 loss of ten missiles can be readily 1449 01:18:52,310 --> 01:19:03,580 identified is cause for grave concern to 1450 01:18:57,079 --> 01:19:07,309 this headquarters and I have to tell you 1451 01:19:03,579 --> 01:19:11,390 well if you are in the Cold War with an 1452 01:19:07,310 --> 01:19:13,220 ideological opponent and there is 1453 01:19:11,390 --> 01:19:17,840 suddenly something that switches off 1454 01:19:13,220 --> 01:19:20,600 your main defense capability now that 1455 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:24,430 would definitely cause you grave concern 1456 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:27,140 wouldn't it and it is also another 1457 01:19:24,430 --> 01:19:35,360 contradiction to the official United 1458 01:19:27,140 --> 01:19:38,390 States position on UFOs because if a UFO 1459 01:19:35,359 --> 01:19:40,699 tampering with with nuclear missiles is 1460 01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:42,039 not considered a threat to national 1461 01:19:40,699 --> 01:19:46,220 security 1462 01:19:42,039 --> 01:19:47,659 then what could possibly be considered a 1463 01:19:46,220 --> 01:19:52,659 threat of national security 1464 01:19:47,659 --> 01:19:52,659 this is the threat of national security 1465 01:19:54,789 --> 01:20:00,710 again I'm coming to the to the end now 1466 01:19:58,310 --> 01:20:08,140 this is what Michael Saleh has already 1467 01:20:00,710 --> 01:20:13,100 talked about there are very important 1468 01:20:08,140 --> 01:20:15,619 questions that we have to ask as mankind 1469 01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:20,320 what does it mean for us that we are 1470 01:20:15,619 --> 01:20:23,720 being visited by something by objects 1471 01:20:20,319 --> 01:20:27,559 possibly beings that show intelligent 1472 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:31,060 behavior that are superior to our 1473 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:34,520 technological capabilities to our 1474 01:20:31,060 --> 01:20:37,670 scientific knowledge up I mean it seems 1475 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:40,490 like that you know it's it's obvious 1476 01:20:37,670 --> 01:20:42,289 that's like that excuse me I have a 1477 01:20:40,489 --> 01:20:45,199 still forgot to translate this it says 1478 01:20:42,289 --> 01:20:48,470 important questions for mankind how do 1479 01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:51,229 they get here you know do they come with 1480 01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:54,890 oil I'm sure they do not come with oil 1481 01:20:51,229 --> 01:20:56,059 if they travel to earth do they come 1482 01:20:54,890 --> 01:21:00,239 with nuclear power 1483 01:20:56,060 --> 01:21:02,610 do they have another technology perhaps 1484 01:21:00,238 --> 01:21:08,598 you know the the interesting thing about 1485 01:21:02,609 --> 01:21:13,380 oil is that it's that that we use oil to 1486 01:21:08,599 --> 01:21:19,319 to fulfill 36% of our global energy 1487 01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:21,420 demand is is fed by oil 36% there's an 1488 01:21:19,319 --> 01:21:23,488 oil industry which basically controls 1489 01:21:21,420 --> 01:21:26,550 the rest of the industries of the world 1490 01:21:23,488 --> 01:21:29,819 because they are dependent on oil just 1491 01:21:26,550 --> 01:21:33,239 imagine what would happen if we wouldn't 1492 01:21:29,819 --> 01:21:35,578 need oil anymore you know it would not 1493 01:21:33,238 --> 01:21:39,928 only change the technologies we have at 1494 01:21:35,578 --> 01:21:43,109 our disposal at our disposition at our 1495 01:21:39,929 --> 01:21:44,819 how do you say it in English it wouldn't 1496 01:21:43,109 --> 01:21:48,210 only change the technologies that we 1497 01:21:44,819 --> 01:21:50,630 have it would also considerably change 1498 01:21:48,210 --> 01:21:53,130 the power structures on our planet 1499 01:21:50,630 --> 01:21:56,248 because everybody in this room knows 1500 01:21:53,130 --> 01:21:59,038 that the the the importance of the 1501 01:21:56,248 --> 01:22:01,859 United States dollar can only be 1502 01:21:59,038 --> 01:22:04,259 justified if at all if it can be 1503 01:22:01,859 --> 01:22:08,609 justified at all because it is the main 1504 01:22:04,260 --> 01:22:13,530 currency for any transactions financial 1505 01:22:08,609 --> 01:22:17,808 transactions in the oil sector if if the 1506 01:22:13,529 --> 01:22:20,998 US dollar wouldn't be used for for oil 1507 01:22:17,809 --> 01:22:23,309 transactions then you know I'm wondering 1508 01:22:20,998 --> 01:22:26,519 if it would if he would exist anymore 1509 01:22:23,309 --> 01:22:29,070 u.s. dollar so it would considerably 1510 01:22:26,519 --> 01:22:35,670 alter the power structures on our planet 1511 01:22:29,069 --> 01:22:39,599 the other thing is if you start if you 1512 01:22:35,670 --> 01:22:41,609 start to ask yourself questions well if 1513 01:22:39,599 --> 01:22:45,510 there are beings who come here who visit 1514 01:22:41,609 --> 01:22:49,710 us do they live in societies how is 1515 01:22:45,510 --> 01:22:52,610 their society organized do they have do 1516 01:22:49,710 --> 01:22:56,630 they have a head of state do they have 1517 01:22:52,609 --> 01:22:59,960 ministry ministries do they have 1518 01:22:56,630 --> 01:23:03,118 homeless people do they have terrorists 1519 01:22:59,960 --> 01:23:06,630 you know do they have Wars why do they 1520 01:23:03,118 --> 01:23:07,799 kill each other you know or oh maybe 1521 01:23:06,630 --> 01:23:10,349 they don't kill each other 1522 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:12,969 maybe there's another another chance you 1523 01:23:10,349 --> 01:23:16,600 know another thing what we could do 1524 01:23:12,969 --> 01:23:20,079 or how what is what is the highest tax 1525 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:23,550 rate in the in the extraterrestrial 1526 01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:26,710 society are there taxes at all in 1527 01:23:23,550 --> 01:23:27,430 extraterrestrial societies is there 1528 01:23:26,710 --> 01:23:31,210 money 1529 01:23:27,430 --> 01:23:34,119 at all or is there possibly something 1530 01:23:31,210 --> 01:23:37,119 else that they use to organize their 1531 01:23:34,119 --> 01:23:42,149 society and if so is there something is 1532 01:23:37,119 --> 01:23:45,909 there maybe a way that we as mankind 1533 01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:49,779 could benefit from these thoughts you 1534 01:23:45,909 --> 01:23:52,448 know from from the not not only an 1535 01:23:49,779 --> 01:23:55,359 alternative an alternative model but 1536 01:23:52,448 --> 01:23:57,369 just the possibility that there is an 1537 01:23:55,359 --> 01:23:59,469 alternative because we are always being 1538 01:23:57,369 --> 01:24:01,238 told that this is you know real politics 1539 01:23:59,469 --> 01:24:03,969 we have to invite them because they have 1540 01:24:01,238 --> 01:24:06,399 this weapons of mass huh you know that 1541 01:24:03,969 --> 01:24:08,170 you know we have to pay you have to pay 1542 01:24:06,399 --> 01:24:10,329 taxes because we need the money because 1543 01:24:08,170 --> 01:24:13,779 we need to pay our debts because da da 1544 01:24:10,329 --> 01:24:18,550 da you know all these little terrestrial 1545 01:24:13,779 --> 01:24:20,759 problems would suddenly change if we 1546 01:24:18,550 --> 01:24:25,869 start to consider the extra-terrestrial 1547 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:29,289 presence as a fact and what about 1548 01:24:25,869 --> 01:24:33,609 religion by the way what about the ETS 1549 01:24:29,289 --> 01:24:38,100 do they believe in God you know are they 1550 01:24:33,609 --> 01:24:38,099 allowed to have sex before marriage 1551 01:24:38,189 --> 01:24:45,179 do they have to carry a meal like the 1552 01:24:42,310 --> 01:24:48,010 Muslims you know and what about 1553 01:24:45,180 --> 01:24:52,449 technology what about science what about 1554 01:24:48,010 --> 01:24:54,969 all those things that's the reason in my 1555 01:24:52,448 --> 01:24:58,359 opinion that we all should be concerned 1556 01:24:54,969 --> 01:25:01,350 with the UFO phenomenon especially 1557 01:24:58,359 --> 01:25:06,549 politicians especially people who take 1558 01:25:01,350 --> 01:25:09,520 decisions and each and every peep each 1559 01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:14,590 and every person on this planet because 1560 01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:18,880 honestly I think that the UFO subject 1561 01:25:14,590 --> 01:25:21,940 has been kept secret for way too long by 1562 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:24,969 the people who rule this world and this 1563 01:25:21,939 --> 01:25:26,409 is not a question anymore of secrecy or 1564 01:25:24,969 --> 01:25:29,199 national security 1565 01:25:26,409 --> 01:25:32,859 but we are now talking about the ongoing 1566 01:25:29,199 --> 01:25:35,050 evolution of mankind you know and I am 1567 01:25:32,859 --> 01:25:38,170 convinced that evolution of 1568 01:25:35,050 --> 01:25:39,820 consciousness in the universe is a 1569 01:25:38,170 --> 01:25:43,420 guided process 1570 01:25:39,819 --> 01:25:46,539 it's a directed process and it will not 1571 01:25:43,420 --> 01:25:49,989 be stopped by some stubborn power driven 1572 01:25:46,539 --> 01:25:51,970 people who try to keep on ruling the 1573 01:25:49,989 --> 01:25:56,019 world because they have the whole 1574 01:25:51,970 --> 01:25:58,329 universe against against them so 1575 01:25:56,020 --> 01:26:01,450 evolution of mankind will not be stopped 1576 01:25:58,329 --> 01:26:04,300 just because some people say no we want 1577 01:26:01,449 --> 01:26:06,460 to keep it secret so please check your 1578 01:26:04,300 --> 01:26:08,829 facts for yourself please make up your 1579 01:26:06,460 --> 01:26:12,670 mind do not believe anything I just said 1580 01:26:08,829 --> 01:26:17,079 please look look after it yourself and 1581 01:26:12,670 --> 01:26:20,310 make up your own opinion and see the 1582 01:26:17,079 --> 01:26:24,420 importance of this subject for mankind 1583 01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:24,420 thank you very much for your attention 1584 01:26:27,689 --> 01:26:29,750 you